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Old 08-03-2016, 03:39 PM   #241
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When we ordered our 21 in May 2014 the stated dry weight on ETI's website was 3050 lbs.
Same here. 3050.
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Old 08-03-2016, 03:56 PM   #242
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When we ordered our 21 in May 2014 the stated dry weight on ETI's website was 3050 lbs.
And since then, but before the new body mould, it was changed to 3210 pounds. I can only guess that the increase from 3050 to 3210 was due to either a change in standard equipment, or a correction of an optimistic earlier estimate.

Perhaps - and this is certainly speculation - the 340 pound increase of the weight of the 19' is a combination of
  • new-this-year body shape
  • wider frame for new-this-year body
  • new-this-year standard equipment
  • catching up on earlier changes such as from 1.5"x3" frame to 2"x4" frame
  • correcting earlier estimated weight
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:07 PM   #243
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Seems like a gain of 70# for the 21 and 340# for the 19? seems odd?
Ours was 2454 lb in 2013. Pat
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:34 PM   #244
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Ours was 2454 lb in 2013. Pat
Increase of 430 lbs for us . Pat
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:37 PM   #245
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Seems like a gain of 70# for the 21 and 340# for the 19? seems odd?
496 lb for the base 19 and 160 for Rousse 21 . Pat
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Old 08-03-2016, 05:30 PM   #246
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I believe that the previous (classic) dry weight was "as-certified" as a 19. This would have been with the 3"x2" frame. Since some time in 2014, 4"x 2" is the standard frame material for all Escapes. (They were not re-certified at that time.)
With the new Escapes measured "as-built" (with 4x2 frames), that would explain the majority of the weight difference,
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Old 08-03-2016, 06:28 PM   #247
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Too many numbers are confusing, the numbers quoted need to be off the website for the basic model from the factory for the old style to compare to the newer model. What your specific weight is/was is based upon your options and other items and stamped on your label is not pertinent right now. It is well known we have to add in options and until one weighs their unit at a highway scale the difference between wet and dry is not known. So we are trying to establish the basic model weight, before options. Then we can compare your model's weight, as equipped from the factory, based upon the label in your closet. Then you need to get the trailer weight
at a scale after you put your possessions inside. So there are 3 weights we are trying to determine, for both models.
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Old 08-03-2016, 06:32 PM   #248
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I believe that the previous (classic) dry weight was "as-certified" as a 19. This would have been with the 3"x2" frame. Since some time in 2014, 4"x 2" is the standard frame material for all Escapes. (They were not re-certified at that time.)
With the new Escapes measured "as-built" (with 4x2 frames), that would explain the majority of the weight difference,
We got the 4x2 frame in 2013 . Pat
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:21 PM   #249
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So the base dry weights known for the 19' include:
  • 2454 lb - 2013 (Pat and Linda's)
  • 2510 lb - late 2013 brochure
  • 2610 lb - published on website up to 2016; published in 2016 brochure
  • 2950 lb - reported in e-mail from Escape for new body style
As-equipped weights are higher, of course.

Some of these changes are due to equipment or design changes; some may just be corrections.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:25 PM   #250
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Yes, the 19's were given as 2510 and later 2610 and then they just gave the new weight. I don't know anything about your weight, Pat!
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