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Old 08-03-2016, 07:32 PM   #251
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We got the 4x2 frame in 2013 . Pat
Strange, given that in announcing the frame joint recall, Reace implied that the use of 4" frame material didn't start until early 2014:
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For most of 2014, the 19' trailers were built with a 4" frame ...

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So it's hard to tell when the extra weight of the 2"x4" frame should have been included in the published base dry weight... but that's not much more than about 9 kilograms or 20 pounds anyway.
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:42 PM   #252
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Strange, given that in announcing the frame joint recall, Reace implied that the use of 4" frame material didn't start until early 2014:


So it's hard to tell when the extra weight of the 2"x4" frame should have been included in the published base dry weight... but that's not much more than about 9 kilograms or 20 pounds anyway.
We have the 4" frame on our 2013 too and Reace told me back then that it added 50 lbs over the 3". Don't know if he was estimating or if he had weighed it.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:11 PM   #253
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We have the 4" frame on our 2013 too and Reace told me back then that it added 50 lbs over the 3". Don't know if he was estimating or if he had weighed it.
If it added anything like 50 pounds, either I've substantially miscalculated (which is possible ) or there were more changes than the box section size - perhaps crossmembers and gussets. There just isn't enough frame rail length of this size (the rear section is 1.5"x3" even when the rest is 2"x4") to account for 50 pounds.

It's hard to understand why any 19' built in 2014 would have the 3" frame, since the 4" frames were already in use in 2013.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:26 PM   #254
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Per my steel book (which I finally was able to dig out and dust off!),
the difference between 4x4x3/16 wall and 3x1x3/16 wall is about 1 lbs. per foot.
So with about 30 ft. of main frame (tongue to behind axles), the difference is less than 40 lbs., so Reace's 'thumb' answer of 50 lbs. is reasonable and conservative.
So the extra weight has to be fiberglass, wood, and a lot of extra heavy lovin' care in assembly.
How's that for a computation?
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:11 PM   #255
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Strange, given that in announcing the frame joint recall, Reace implied that the use of 4" frame material didn't start until early 2014
Why would you find that strange Brian when you have often expressed frustration with their out of date website. This may be just another example of not paying attention to overall detail.
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Old 08-03-2016, 10:25 PM   #256
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Tammy told me the 2017 21' was increasing in weight only approximately 100 lbs. She said that the 21 changed the least in weight as the tank sizes and much else were still the same, and the weight change was mainly due to fiberglass and reinforcement design changes.
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:37 PM   #257
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Yes, the 19's were given as 2510 and later 2610 and then they just gave the new weight. I don't know anything about your weight, Pat!
Hi Cathy after I pulled our papers today our weight was 2520 . Pat
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Hi Cathy after I pulled our papers today our weight was 2520 . Pat
Well, they were within 10 lbs. of their specs! Wondered how you could be lighter.
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Well, they were within 10 lbs. of their specs! Wondered how you could be lighter.
Wouldn't it be how your trailer is equipped ? There should be a base weight . Pat
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Wouldn't it be how your trailer is equipped ? There should be a base weight . Pat
Anyone would have been lucky to get out of the factory with less than 3000 lbs. if you mean with options. The new ones will be closer to 3500 lbs.
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