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Old 04-14-2019, 08:26 AM   #11
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You want great night skies with no light pollution? No place darker than at the Natural Bridges National Monument campground, in Utah.
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:35 AM   #12
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I don't know about packrats but up here we have regular rats and they get into car engines, and my mechanic says having lights in the area helps (like a lighted garage or lights on your car outside. So maybe it makes sense. It would seem under the vehicle was better than around it, though.
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:54 AM   #13
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........ we used three bars of Irish Spring soap in the engine compartment, a bar at each wheel.....
I think the formula for Irish Spring has changed over the years. Now mice/rats think of it as a 'green snack.'
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:07 AM   #14
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Fresh Cab. This stuff works. Got mine at Tractors Supply.
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:08 AM   #15
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I think the formula for Irish Spring has changed over the years. Now mice/rats think of it as a 'green snack.'


Perhaps there are Irish pack rats, no............
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:16 AM   #16
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We were at Organ Pipe a few weeks ago and there are official park signs suggesting that you leave the hood up and put lights in the engine compartment and under the vehicle. Most campers complied.

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I think the formula for Irish Spring has changed over the years. Now mice/rats think of it as a 'green snack.'
Considering the nest was 10 feet away and I saw the packrat, we never had a single bar nibbled on in the seven days we were there. Didn't put the Gain dryer sheets on the ground, only up in the engine compartment. However, now that we have the motion lights we've got a three-way attack on the buggers.

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Old 04-14-2019, 10:54 AM   #18
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I too have camped at Gilbert Rey and is probably where I first became aware of the need to open your hood and use light as warm dark places attract the rodents.

Did have a wire chewed and it cost $300 to have repaired, which is on the very low side of what can happen if your wiring harness gets severely munched. The soy used in the wiring insulation does evidently attract them more, and our red positive battery terminal cover has the tell-tale signs of being munched on. During the eclipse in August 2017 while in Lander, WY I showed it to a neighbor who was with us there and when we opened his hood to check on an AC problem he was having a rodent went scampering.

Like the idea of the motion detector light as my rope LED lights from Harbor Freight are junk and keep crapping out and the aesthetic quality of the motion detector light is appealing as well.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:13 AM   #19
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When my golden retriever was a pup, he chewed on everything! Nothing was safe... garden hose, lilac TREE, back porch railing and on and on. I bought a spray from the pet store and applied it to everything I could think of. It was a bitter, spicy-hot liquid. So... I'm wondering if something like that would work on wiring, etc. of a motor vehicle? You'd definitely want to make certain it didn't stink when hot or won't damage rubber/plastics, etc.
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Good catch on flashlights & funny! Not so much fun when you open your hood & find a huge Packrat nest & thousands of dollars of electrical damage. Their primary food source is Mesquite Beans, and their predators include Owls & Hawks, Coyotes, Snakes, Bobcats. They are nocturnal to avoid predators, and the thought is they avoid light sources to avoid being eaten. They are avid wire chewers to keep their teeth sharp. The reason Gilbert Ray has so many, is because the Parks policy of Natural Habitat & not picking up & cleaning deadwood and fallen debris. They use this debris to build large nests & surround them with fallen Cholla Cactus (think razor wire) for protection. We had a site with two nests 10 feet or less from our new 19’ & Tow Vehicle. Advice to newcomers to the Sonoran Desert ~ “When in Rome....”.
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