Beautiful antique lead crystal chandelier for used Escape 5.0

[Gamalgubbe]

Hello, new here. Want to trade one (or possibly more) of my high value lead crystal chandelier collection ( imported to USA In 1990 and documented then well over 100 years old ) for pre-owned loaded Escape 5.0 (or 5 TA). Contact here, pm, or email. Many pictures available upon request. ( One set of very early matched, large and small, first electric pair of models. ) More details on profile...

[cpaharley2008]

Do you have any idea what those lights are worth? A slightly used Escape will be at least 5 figure as in $XX,XXX.00 You maybe better to sell and then buy.

[Gamalgubbe]

Yessir, I know what they were worth when imported in 1990, well documented as required for customs then. Doubt whether they have lost any value since. Most of them are in the lower to mid five figure range in value. Yes, one could sell them, just thought maybe someone here might wish to acquire one (or more.) As both these Escapes and the chandeliers are collectables, believe it would be possible to do a US 1031 tax free equity exchange. They are quite valuable and highly desirable. I am a 73 yo retired former CFP, and know the value of the items, and have been following these Escape 5.O for some time now.

[gbaglo]

As with anything, the chandeliers are only worth what somebody is willing to pay for them.
We have a lot of useless collectibles in our house ( anybody want to buy a butter churn? ) and as people downsize or find that they can only afford a small condo, the market shrinks.
Guess you could post a picture to increase the odds, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Gamalgubbe]

One chandelier is quite old, only electrified in 1990 for insurance purposes. They range from 400 hand cut lead crystals to 1000 of them, and they are not making any more of them.

[J Mac]

Post a picture of them.

[cpaharley2008]

Very familiar with Section 1031 "like kind exchanges" but you would be hard pressed convincing titling services there is no sales tax payable to register your trailer, personal property normally is not involved. No gain on trailer owner but you may have a gain which will not be deferred.

[Greg A]

I agree with Jim that you should sell them then buy. My folks passed not too long ago and I've got quite a bit of valuable antique items. Appraisers are telling us that young folks don't want these items and the market has really dried up trying to sell antiques, silverware, fine china, etc.
Pictures would help as you never know, they might catch someone, but I doubt the value is what it used to be.

[gbaglo]

Young folk have concluded that owning stuff is a burden. Not so dumb.

[Gamalgubbe]

Perfectly willing to email pics to anyone able to prove they have an Escape 5.O or TA. See no reason to post pics here.

Perhaps it was wrong for me to use the Trade Function here. If so, I am sorry. Yes collectable's value is determined by both seller and buyer. One of these chandeliers hung in the home of the then Stockholm Sweden Mayor. Appraisals and provenance help seller and purchaser to reach agreement as to value. Peace.

[J Mac]

I think it would be nice to show all the forum members your treasure, not just those with a large trailer. You're obviously proud of them, let's see what you got.

[Iowa Dave]

It has been interesting to me over the years to watch the price of antique cars. They peak and then decline as the favored era passes through the market population. Model T cars way down model A cars down significantly, postwar down, muscle cars, not as good as 5 years ago and so it goes. However, the really special, one off stuff holds up better. It's not what it's worth, it's what someone will pay. Cult followings, as I call them, all bets are off and it can get crazy.
Dave

[C&G in FL]

IPersonally, I wouldn't trade my 5.0TA for a chandelier even if the chandelier may be worth $100,000. At my age, God only knows how much time I may have left to do what I want to do, and what I want to do is travel and enjoy my trailer. And I'm not wasting a year or more of what time is left to get a new one after having waited 10 months to get the one I now have. Perhaps the trailer is worth $30,000 US. That would net me $70,000, but I would rather have the $30,000 trailer than $70,000 cash assuming I could sell the chandelier. But I might (repeat, MIGHT, not will) consider selling my 5.0TA for $200,000 cash. No, make that $250,000 to cover any taxes I might have to pay. Because to me, my 5.0TA is more valuable than money.

[Gamalgubbe]

As previously stated, I am sorry to have raised the issue here. I thought this was a friendly place, obviously my mistake. Certainly did not intend to imply anyone should give up their possession unless it was of interest to them to do so. We value everyone else's privacy and security, as well as our own.

[gbaglo]

People were not being unfriendly. They were just explaining that the odds of finding someone who wants to trade their Escape 5.0 TA for a chandelier is extremely remote. I think you have now understood.

[Donna D.]

I've often thought it certainly doesn't hurt to ask. They've already said no if you don't ask. Give them an opportunity to say yes.

As you've found, you're not having much luck here. Perhaps a different build-type owner would be more receptive? I respectfully suggest you post your question at: iRV2 Forum | - RV Forum Community and RV News

Best of luck!

[C&G in FL]

Originally Posted by Gamalgubbe

Perfectly willing to email pics to anyone able to prove they have an Escape 5.O or TA. See no reason to post pics here.

In my opinion, which is just that, opinion, and not worth much, the above was the most "unfriendly" comment made in this thread.

[escape artist]

Hi: All... Just when you think you've seen it all!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[cpaharley2008]

Well, we will never be able to "shed any light" on this subject anymore......

[Greg A]

Sure didn't want to produce any pics of the items for some reason. Very strange.