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Old 07-29-2014, 12:29 PM   #11
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And, as some have rightly pointed out to me here, don't get a trailer to match your TV, get a TV to match your trailer. TV's come and go -- but hopefully, the trailer does not.
On the other hand, committing to a lifetime of owning and operating an excessively large and expensive tug because you chose the wrong trailer doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Like many things in life, trailer and tug choice involves compromise.

Choosing the combination to suit yourself makes the most sense to me. For most people, that combination will change over the decades as personal circumstances change.
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:43 PM   #12
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Since we're offering advice about trailer and tug selection (although it was not asked for)...

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I was also wondering because almost any tow vehicle that can tow a loaded 15 would be able to tow a 17 because they are so close in weight and you will need a 3,500 pound capacity. Also the tongue weight on our 15 is 350 which also requires a 3,500 pound tow capacity. All of the trailers end up heavier than listed dry weights.
Almost, but not all - Subaru for instance is well known for having quite restricted hitch weight limits compared to the total trailer weight allowed; perhaps hitch weight is the limitation, and the 17 will have a higher hitch weight for the same option and cargo loading. Techfan's caution is still applicable here: although listed at 190 lb dry, the actual hitch weight of any 15' will be higher when loaded and will likely exceed a 200 lb tongue weight limit.

There is no need for 3,500 pounds of towing capacity just because the trailer has a 3500 lb axle. The tug does need to be able to pull the loaded (yes, much more than base/dry/empty) trailer plus carry passenger and cargo loads. There is no need for that trailer weight to include 1900 pounds of options and stuff (that's what it would take to make a 15A weigh 3500 pounds), nor is there a need to have a tug sized to tow weight that isn't being towed.

A 15A weighs 300 pounds less than a 17A, because it has a smaller body and shorter frame. Perhaps it would cause less confusion if ETI set the GVWR for the 15' at 3200 pounds, allowing the same cargo as a 17'.
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Old 07-29-2014, 01:29 PM   #13
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Since we're offering advice about trailer and tug selection (although it was not asked for)...
It always amuses me when an OP posts a query and then others try to talk them into something else despite the fact that, in most cases, people have put a lot of thought into their decisions.

I love my 15A and wouldn't trade it for anything...not a bigger trailer, not one with a bathroom or AC or underbody insulation or any other option I didn't choose.
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Old 07-29-2014, 01:37 PM   #14
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"Unfortunately, we can't pull a 17."

This is the sentence that raised red flags, causing members to ask about the tow, since it appears there is no margin.
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:35 PM   #15
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We have a Dodge Grand Caravan, I believe the towing capacity is 2500lbs on those, and we'll be getting a cooler installed. So, we're really looking for 13' and 15' but I didn't realize the 17' was only a few hundred pounds heavier. However, I think that might add up and be harder on the vehicle overall. So, we'll continue searching for the smaller models. Thanks.
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:42 PM   #16
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13' you say ? May not still be for sale, but I saw this on on FiberglassRV in Lake Country:

2009 13' Escape Travel Trailer | Lake Country, BC, Canada | Fiberglass RV's For Sale
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Old 07-29-2014, 11:09 PM   #17
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thanks, but it sold these things move FAST eh, ha ha.
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Old 07-30-2014, 12:02 AM   #18
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Yep, when it comes to ANY brand of all molded towable... you snooze, you lose.

Remember, things happen for a reason and PAY ATTENTION. Within your (comfortable) driving distance.... trailers may go fast.

It really is location, location, location (kinda like a sticks 'n bricks)

Best of luck!
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:38 PM   #19
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Karen, what do you use to tow your 15A? I am looking for drop-dead basic camper and a used tug. First timer, so any advice welcome.
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:46 PM   #20
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Karen, what do you use to tow your 15A? I am looking for drop-dead basic camper and a used tug. First timer, so any advice welcome.
I'm afraid I'm no help here! I tow with a Ford 150 XLT which would have pulled anything. I was not limited by my tug...just my desire to have the smallest and simplest Escape possible that would fit my minimalist needs.
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