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Old 02-03-2013, 11:57 AM   #11
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Yes, the Rav came with the tow package. I had U-Haul install a class III hitch with 2" receiver. They also installed the 7pin plug. The only down side is that the Rav did not have the shut off when I turn the car off I have to unplug from the camper. My Subie was able to be wired where when I turned the car off, it also stopped the camper from drawing from my battery. My 13' Scamp/bath towed like a dream behind the Forester. I'm hoping it will be just as well behaved behind the Rav. I am primarily in the market for a 15' Escape, but if the right deal comes along, a 17' Escape would be nice. Do you think a15' Escape would need a WDH?

Re:Passport. Yes, I would also get the card along with the renewed passport. I'm originally from Niagara Falls, NY, and it is convenient for crossing the bridge.

It is quite a drive for me to get up to Canada from S. Utah. But we'll worry about that down the line. Heck, look at Jon, he's taken two trips x-country with his Escape.
Well I won't be one of those that says "Can't even tell the trailer is behind me" but for the way I travel it is a great solution. A very stable tow, but I have to admit long hills do slow me down.

By the way, I installed a Stinger 80 amp isolator relay in the charge line. It is located in the driver's side jack storage area and the sense wire connected to the 12V power jack located in the rear panel. If UHaul ran your charge line along the same path when they ran the trailer lighting & brake wiring, maybe you can find the charge line and add an isolation relay. Very handy if you have a 3 way refrigerator & make long lunch stops!
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:36 PM   #12
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Do I sense a dead battery in one of your lunch hour stops there Jon? Do you not have solar and do you not drive on propane just 12v? I got the same refer in my 19' you have and I'm still experimenting.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:01 PM   #13
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Do I sense a dead battery in one of your lunch hour stops there Jon? Do you not have solar and do you not drive on propane just 12v? I got the same refer in my 19' you have and I'm still experimenting.
Hasn't happened to me - I have a 2 way refer, but I sure read about the problem on forums!
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:15 PM   #14
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Sorry, I thought you had the 3 way with 12v option.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:20 PM   #15
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Thank you for your interest in the Escape Trailer.

We have had a couple of people ask for a sway bar however, it is not something that people request very often. The key to preventing sway is loading the trailer properly; maintaining a 15% hitch weight. In the 19 Escape we offer a permanent queen bed in the back of the trailer with storage underneath this storage space is easily accessible and is often filled before any of the storage compartments in the front of the trailer are used.

The equalizer hitch we offer does not include a sway control feature however it does distribute the weight evenly throughout the frame of the tow vehicle and trailer maintaining a positive hitch weight.

Jubal, thank you for posting this. I stand corrected. I thought I had read time and again that the WDH has a sway control. Obviously not. Now I will have to look for what I thought I kept seeing.
So Alice, scratch that.

A WDH, however, will give you much greater stability. I go by Thomson of RV Lifestyle who has tested this on a track and looked at its use for years. He highly recommends use of a WDH to anyone with smaller trailers including right down to pop-ups, and who tows with the smaller passenger-type vehicles often used for fiberglass trailers.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:44 PM   #16
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As I read the explanation and from my experience, the WDH effectively is sway control.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:40 PM   #17
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Weight distribution is not sway control nor does it add stability. It is what it's name says, redistribution of weight from the rear of the tow vehicle to the front of the tow vehicle and to the rear of the trailer. As a result of this weight shift, you may think it is more stable while in reality it is the way it should have been because without the w/d your set up was unstable.
Similarly, a more stable set up is less apt to sway, similarly a less stable set up without w/d is more apt to sway. So if you need weight distribution use it and receive other benefits.
If you do not need weight distribution, you may still need sway control if your trailer is not properly balanced, i.e. light tongue weight. Adding sway control can add stability even if you do not need a w/d set up.
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So, could you also not say that the sway bar makes your set-up appear more stable, when in reality it is the way it should have been?
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:51 PM   #19
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I always get lost when the negative is being expressed as a positive, but I guess so.
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Thomson says that there is a "dramatic" improvement in stability for small trailers of our size and smaller with a WDH and very highly recommends them. He has numerous articles on every aspect of towing but they are only partial unless you are a subscriber.
He has spent a great deal of time on the subject and I have no doubt that he took loading into consideration and would have had proper loading in his tests as a given. He knows all about that, too. He has found people with very improper loading but that is not to deny the benefits of a WDH when properly loaded.

The whole purpose of a WDH is stability. It helps keep the vehicle's nose down so you don't go out of control in certain situations. The greatest value of a WDH may be in those occasional emergency-type instances. Our WDH transfers weight up front as well as back to the trailer. I certainly would not want that 300 lbs sitting on the rear of the vehicle lessening the contact with the road that the front of our vehicle gains with the WDH.
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