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Old 11-16-2016, 06:00 PM   #61
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Wish we could make it but will have to wait till the 2018 rally. On a side note, won't have to experience being bumped from our spot again and stuck at the bottom of the hill away from the main group. The rally is a blast, but dealing with the campground staff was not fun.
We'll try not to use up all the fun at this rally, and save some for 2018. Long ways for you guys to make it, that's for sure.

I have been fortunate to get the site I reserved every year. It must be that Canadian charm, eh?
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:42 PM   #62
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I have been fortunate to get the site I reserved every year. It must be that Canadian charm, eh?
I have never gotten the site I asked for. Not so charming, I guess.
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:47 PM   #63
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:48 PM   #64
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Old 11-16-2016, 08:54 PM   #65
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We'll try not to use up all the fun at this rally, and save some for 2018. Long ways for you guys to make it, that's for sure.

I have been fortunate to get the site I reserved every year. It must be that Canadian charm, eh?
Yep, it's your charm my brother.

In our case, they said that the site we reserved had already been taken by someone who arrived an hour earlier. My response was that the word reserved means you don't do that, but wait for the person who reserved it. I got a blank look from two people and shrugging shoulders. Decided it wasn't worth the trouble to argue with someone who was obviously not interested.

Have to say though, the campground office staff was the only negative experience we had. The Okanagan Valley, the food, the folks, the scenery, the wine, everything, was just great. We can't wait to return.
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:41 AM   #66
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What I find frustrating is the inconsistent messaging on reserving sites. I have never been able to reserve a specific site, I am always told that I have a reservation and that the site will be assigned upon our arrival.

Even in the reservation confirmation it states:
"If you are not booking for 14 nights or longer we are unable to guarantee a specific site number in advance, however the reservation still guarantees you a site in the park and only the site number once you are here and checking in."
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Old 11-17-2016, 07:39 AM   #67
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Nk'Mip has always told me that I can reserve a specific site, just that it is not guaranteed only if a longer term user is in it at the time. The last couple years I did phone the day before to confirm my arrival and the site. Not sure if that made any difference.

I think what they really need to do is to set aside specific sites for long term guests, all in the same area. This kinda happens, but there are always a few interspersed amongst the short term guests.
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Nancy, Chico and I will see you all next May. We may be in site 62 from the 24th to the 29th. I had said no more long trips, I guess 2000 miles isn't too long after all.
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Nancy, Chico and I will see you all next May. We may be in site 62 from the 24th to the 29th. I had said no more long trips, I guess 2000 miles isn't too long after all.
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I think what they really need to do is to set aside specific sites for long term guests, all in the same area. This kinda happens, but there are always a few interspersed amongst the short term guests.
Why would a long-term customer not be entitled to choose from available sites like any other customer? They have individual preferences like anyone else.

It would make sense to not book guests who are expecting to stay long-term into sites which will be in the middle of a planned event; for instance, someone checking in for a two-week stay starting only one week before the Escape rally shouldn't be placed in the rally's area (which might be the entire C-loops)... but people do sometimes stay longer than they stated when they checked in. Also, the C-loops are the only areas of Nk'Mip with 50-amp service (according to the map), so there is no easy solution.
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i asked for water front so its easier to kayak. but they would not give me a specific site last year they gave me a specific site not water front.
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Just a thought, but if I ever have the good fortune to any campground's long-term resident, I'd prefer to be commingled with other long-term campers. It would help build a sense of community that creates friendships that can last for years. YMMV.
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Why would a long-term customer not be entitled to choose from available sites like any other customer? They have individual preferences like anyone else.
It seems most campgrounds I have been to that have long term guests, have areas of the campground set out for these people. A lot of it is due to closing part of the campground to lessen the amount of maintenance work they need to do. It also puts these folks with all the junk they seem to accumulate in one area. Maybe all places with long term guests are not the same, but some of the ones at Nk'Mip seem to have sites jamb packed with all kinds of stuff. Not anything at all near the type of camping I am used to. Maybe it is just me.......
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Just a thought, but if I ever have the good fortune to any campground's long-term resident, I'd prefer to be commingled with other long-term campers. It would help build a sense of community that creates friendships that can last for years. YMMV.
That makes sense to me, Rich.
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I think there is a distinction missing here. At Nk'Mip there appear to be permanent sites between the office and the lake. These are the least appealing sites, in my opinion.
Then there are some hundred-thousand plus motor homes scattered in the main loop. I think those are seasonal. I expect if you are "camping" in a spot for six months you get some preference as to location.
I've pretty much given up trying to get a particular site. If I was there for the camping experience rather than the rally experience, I'd make more effort, but then, I wouldn't be in an RV parking lot as a first choice. On the other hand, for the rally, I can't think of a better place.
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I'm not about to decide for other people what is important to them about the selection of their site, whether it is neighbors, distance to facilities, view, access to the lake, or whatever.

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It seems most campgrounds I have been to that have long term guests, have areas of the campground set out for these people. A lot of it is due to closing part of the campground to lessen the amount of maintenance work they need to do.
Nk'Mip closes areas for the winter... and the all-season area is mostly the C-loops because that's where is there is more winter-worthy services, higher power capacity (for electric heating and for larger RVs), and facilities in buildings - exactly where the Escape event runs. So much for a solution there. But the suggestion was that those people should be kept in a restricted area in the normal season, and this maintenance argument is irrelevant then.

If someone wants to spend a few warm-weather weeks at the waterfront at Nk'Mip, for instance, keeping them in the C-loops or near the office would be an unnecessary restriction.

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It also puts these folks with all the junk they seem to accumulate in one area. Maybe all places with long term guests are not the same, but some of the ones at Nk'Mip seem to have sites jamb packed with all kinds of stuff. Not anything at all near the type of camping I am used to.
There's a solution to junk other than corralling it into one slum; good RV parks don't allow junk, or the building of any structures. I have seen some stuff built at Nk'Mip... again, in the same area used for the Escape event, so still no solution there; I haven't been through Nk'Mip for a few years, so I realize that it may have gone downhill. The management may also have decided to define a junky area, without restricting long-term use of other sites by people without junk - thus perhaps the large units in C-loops, which could have been there for months and still there when a group moves in.
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RV parks are not my choice, but this thread is getting stupid.
Nk'Mip is a high end, full service park, on a lake, attached to a resort and a winery.
I have seen a couple of people building a set of steps to attach to their $300,000 motor home. I don't recall them setting it upright so it could be used.
It in no way resembles your imagination of a "trailer park".
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RV parks are not my choice, but this thread is getting stupid.
Nk'Mip is a high end, full service park, on a lake, attached to a resort and a winery.
I have seen a couple of people building a set of steps to attach to their $300,000 motor home. I don't recall them setting it upright so it could be used.
It in no way resembles your imagination of a "trailer park".
And junky parks do not have nice sculpture work and a bronze of
Glenn Baglo greeting campers as they enter. The two years we have attended we have had a lot of fun, met tons of nice folks and paid very little attention to the long term campers. Last year there was a fellow meticulously sodding his front "yard" for the season.
I've seen a lot worse. I've met some awful nice folks in some well used older campers
And a very nice couple in a New Prevost Class A. Negatives are everywhere if you want to waste your life looking for them. Here's Glenn down in Wyoming greeting visitors.
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When I attend rallies I could care less about the campground facilities, it is the people and interacting with them that is important. That said I think Osoyoos is one of the prettiest campgrounds located in a beautiful spot. Plus at $30cn it is a steal in todays prices.
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When I attend rallies I could care less about the campground facilities, it is the people and interacting with them that is important. That said I think Osoyoos is one of the prettiest campgrounds located in a beautiful spot. Plus at $30cn it is a steal in todays prices.
I think that interacting with other Escape owners is the prime reason that most people have for attending. Over the years since the rally's inception, I know we have certainly met a whole bunch of great people, many of whom I have gotten to know fairly well.

I don't think anyone was complaining about the facilities, which I think are great. It was more just the reservation system and why they do what they do, but I guess I have been lucky as I have had no issues there.

It is a super place to host the rally, and it serves us all well.
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