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Old 07-13-2016, 07:43 PM   #11
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If I recall at the Quartzsite gathering one of the Oliver owners that was pretty tight with the manufacturer told me that to date (Feb 16) they had produced 115 trailers.
Yes, that is about where I thought they were. Just do not have the numbers to compare to Escape or the others. Making very few units and the cost is now way up.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:54 PM   #12
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Based on what little Scamp Trailers has revealed approx 6-700+ trailers annually in the very early years, we've always estimated there are somewhere between 20-30,000 Scamps produced since the early 70's. Never have heard any numbers for Casita or Bigfoot.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:57 PM   #13
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Yes, that is about where I thought they were. Just do not have the numbers to compare to Escape or the others. Making very few units and the cost is now way up.
Cathy the numbers keep climbing new owners every week in my e-mail . The cost reflects what you are getting . Still cheaper then Airstreams and a lot nicer . Pat
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The Nest has a marine type bath, similar to Escapes.
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Cathy the numbers keep climbing new owners every week in my e-mail . The cost reflects what you are getting . Still cheaper then Airstreams and a lot nicer . Pat
We looked at Airstream and Oliver. Escape has its advantages over both. Our Escape fits us. True, you may get more space with the others but you not only have to pay the big bucks to get one, you may have to pay more big bucks for the tow vehicle. Then there is the gas. The "drawbacks" to those bigger units for entry and cleaning and other issues are personal preference factors. They are not as convenient to use as Escapes, for us anyway. Convenience and time is worth a lot.

And the big factor that Escape has is better layouts. No making the bed to have more than a two-person dinette. We looked at all of that and Escape just wins out on so many counts that are important to us. Others may prefer the advantages of Oliver or Airstream but we covered them and only need an Escape, at this time anyway. Circumstances change.
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The whole appeal of a molded fiberglass trailer is the low maintenance, resale value, and the low weight for ease of towing. Escapes, to me, fill that gap between a luxury high end unit and a more basic molded unit like a Scamp. Seems the higher end you go, it's not just the expense but the substantial weight increase, necessitating a bigger tow vehicle and increasing your operating cost. We're happy with where we are.

I suppose the Nest won't have the drawbacks of higher weight and less economy, but then there's the price.


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Old 07-13-2016, 08:33 PM   #17
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Don't hold your breath waiting for the Airstream Nest. They seemed to be either embarrassed by the purchase or disinterested in it, since the acquisition was never announced on Airstream's corporate website. Although Robert announced it in person and by email, he had no evidence of the sale on the Nest Caravan website (which now redirects to Airstream). There is now an Airstream Nest web page - so the project seems to be still on - but even that page suggests that there will not be an actual product for another year, and it says almost nothing.

I believe that the "master plan" at Thor is simply to acquire every RV manufacturing company in North America which they can operate profitably. They're well on their way.
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:34 PM   #18
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We looked at Airstream and Oliver. Escape has its advantages over both. Our Escape fits us. True, you may get more space with the others but you not only have to pay the big bucks to get one, you may have to pay more big bucks for the tow vehicle. Then there is the gas. The "drawbacks" to those bigger units for entry and cleaning and other issues are personal preference factors. They are not as convenient to use as Escapes, for us anyway. Convenience and time is worth a lot.

And the big factor that Escape has is better layouts. No making the bed to have more than a two-person dinette. We looked at all of that and Escape just wins out on so many counts that are important to us. Others may prefer the advantages of Oliver or Airstream but we covered them and only need an Escape, at this time anyway. Circumstances change.
We are waiting for the money tree to grow . Pat
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:37 PM   #19
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The Nest has a marine type bath, similar to Escapes.
Yes, it does have a wet bath. The biggest differences between a Nest and an Escape would be that the Nest has a portable toilet (not a built-in, and not a cassette), and that the Nest has no grey waste tank (you hook up something external). There is a built-in fresh water tank.

I don't know if either of these features (lacking features?) will survive to production. I doubt lugging either a grey waste tank or the waste-filled part of a portable toilet really fits in the Airstream owner's world, but there have been extensive discussions in Airstream forums, so others would have a better idea.
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Read an article this week that said Airstream/Nest will have a model available summer 2017.
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