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Old 02-10-2015, 06:58 PM   #111
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Exactly, though I opt to keep the water tank. But all those pipes hanging down really make a diff. on where you can go. If you just stay in campgrounds, no matter.
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:33 PM   #112
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Without a bathroom just think about all of the weight savings in walls, black tank, eliminate the fresh water system and save even more.
Even if there is no toilet or shower, why would you eliminate the fresh water system? Wouldn't you still want to use the kitchen sink?
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:42 PM   #113
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It saddens me to learn that ETI is now outfitting all of their trailers with the larger dimension underframe. I sure wish we had the 2x4 frame on our 19. The smallness of the 1 1/2 x 3 has always bothered me. It's kept us from going places that, in my opinion, would put undue strain on our frame. Plus, supporting the trailer on jack stands between each wheel has given me pause as well. NUTS.

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Old 02-11-2015, 09:55 AM   #114
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What are the repercussions of having the older, smaller frame though, other than being not as stiff? I have drug my trailer into some rougher off the grid places, and have seen no issue. Did Reace change it because there were issues that arose.
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:07 PM   #115
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It saddens me to learn that ETI is now outfitting all of their trailers with the larger dimension underframe. I sure wish we had the 2x4 frame on our 19. The smallness of the 1 1/2 x 3 has always bothered me. It's kept us from going places that, in my opinion, would put undue strain on our frame. Plus, supporting the trailer on jack stands between each wheel has given me pause as well. NUTS.

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Doug, don't be sad.
Think of it as, 'the evolution of the Escape Trailer'.
Trailers, like cars, tooth brushes, and everything else is always striving to be better. Sometimes the price goes up with change. Has there been a price increase since you bought your trailer?
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:29 PM   #116
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...The smallness of the 1 1/2 x 3 has always bothered me. It's kept us from going places that, in my opinion, would put undue strain on our frame...
Was there a particular reason why you thought that the smaller frame would not handle the terrain? Possibly poor performance or breakage by yours or someone else's Escape? Would be interesting if you could expand on your thought process.
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Old 02-11-2015, 05:07 PM   #117
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Has there been a price increase since you bought your trailer?
Excellent point. Escapes are always improving, which is one of the reasons why they're in such demand. We missed the 2014 model cutoff for ordering by two weeks -- which cost us an extra 2 grand. Yours is a prefect representation of an Escape at that time, and any "improvements" usually come at a cost.
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:50 PM   #118
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I wasn't really "whining". I just would have preferred to have a more hefty frame. No, the frame we have won't stop us from bushwhacking but the larger frame would definitely have made it less worry-some. I'm likely over-thinking the frame thing. I think I'll just stay off the forum. After all, ignorance is bliss, isn't it?.

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Doug, is as said.. don't fix it if it ain't broke. I don't think the change is going to make one WHIT of difference to the memories you've made or the ones you're going to make in the future. There's other things to worry about... who brought the CHEAP beer?
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I'm likely over-thinking the frame thing.
Over thinking things seems to be the norm around here lately. You are normal.
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