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Old 01-30-2016, 01:08 PM   #51
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In the same boat here! But gonna sail anyway! The benefit: we have a choice which boat: the "old" amazing one or the new "jet" we don't know about yet!
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:31 PM   #52
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Guess you'll probably have just enough time to think about that on yours too. Aren't you due out in May or June?
Yes, but my thinking is done, I am likely going to go with the new changes, will see once they are announced. I will just have to put off retirement for a few more months.
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:13 PM   #53
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Since 2016 customers will be given the option of the old or new model, ETI must have built completely new molds instead of tweaking the old ones....no small undertaking! Congrats.


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Old 01-30-2016, 04:01 PM   #54
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Since 2016 customers will be given the option of the old or new model, ETI must have built completely new molds instead of tweaking the old ones....no small undertaking! Congrats.


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I did not think to ask during our plant tour. Does anyone on the forum know how many trailers a particular mold is good for? They must wear out like the rest of us. Ever bought a pair of tennis shoes made in China that did not fit, like a size off? I was told it is b/c the shoe last was at the end of its life and worn out.

We saw a technician prepping a mold during lunch break (tour time) with a release agent and cleaning up spots left from the last cast. I marveled at the entire fiberglass process.
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Old 01-30-2016, 04:19 PM   #55
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Meaning the old mold, you gain extra size trailer......?
Would love to know first what changes before any decision. Especially for the 19 with the higher front windows.....
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Old 01-30-2016, 04:35 PM   #56
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perhaps there will be 2 lines going at once, one old and one new, until the backlog is released...
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Old 01-30-2016, 04:43 PM   #57
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just hope the company never gets sold.
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:00 PM   #58
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just hope the company never gets sold.
One of my reasons for purchasing when I did, I was concerned about this. One of these days, a competitor may give them a offer they can't refuse...
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Old 01-30-2016, 07:23 PM   #59
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I hope they will give the date and time a couple of weeks in advance as to when they will open orders with the stipulation that they will not take or use any contacts for a new trailer order or deposit before then. At least that way, everyone will know the day and can put in a deposit instead of trying to constantly check every day.

They have said that a person with a 2016 order will not lose the spot if changing to the 2017 but will have to pay the extra. Guess that means that there will be both sets of molds going.
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Old 01-30-2016, 07:40 PM   #60
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Since 2016 customers will be given the option of the old or new model, ETI must have built completely new molds instead of tweaking the old ones....no small undertaking!
I believe that the usual method to significantly change a mould would be to make a shell (from the existing mould) but not make any cutouts in it (for windows, etc), manually build the changes in that shell, then form the new mould around that shell (which serves as a plug). In an extreme example, this is how the 5.0TA mould was created from a 21 Foot shell.

The same thing could be done without any modifications, but after a few generations significant "creep" could occur in some dimensions, and details would become less sharp... like making a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a document. It makes more sense to make the new moulds from the original plug (like making a fresh copy directly from an original document)... or a modification of the original plug if changes are desired. I don't know if Escape Trailer Industries keeps "master" plugs to make new moulds; I know that it is not uncommon for new companies to make their first moulds by turning an actual existing trailer into a plug by filling in openings (and other preparation).

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Does anyone on the forum know how many trailers a particular mold is good for? They must wear out like the rest of us.
When the 5.0TA was announced (and it didn't even have that name yet), Reace explained that the original mould was due for routine replacement anyway, so it was an opportune time to make changes... in that case, to accommodate the growing size (mostly box height) of pickup trucks. The 5.0 was never the most rapidly selling model - maybe someone knows how many of those were made? I think Not so Big Al & Donna got the last one made, but the VIN number of that trailer would only indicate how many Escape in total (of all models) had been made up to that point).
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