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Old 02-03-2016, 05:13 PM   #81
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(snip) And the roof changed to better do solar.
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Guessing something in the roof moulds for more solar panel security (snip)
What's wrong with how it is? I know there was a problem with some solar panels coming off, but ETI addressed that problem. Is there too much of a curve to the roof for more panels? Or for the current ones? We didn't order a solar panel, so I don't know what all is being referenced in these two posts.

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Old 02-03-2016, 05:26 PM   #82
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I think the windows and inside table will have changes also....
This would not be enough incentive for me to switch to the 21v2.0 trailer. We're not even going to get the table installed.

Nor an electric awning.

I could see the benefit of awning type windows instead of sliders, but not for a $2800 US increase.

However....

What would get me to switch is if they do something about the door locking situation. I know it hasn't happened to everyone, but it's still freaking me out big time. I do not want to worry about trying to shove my butt and all other body parts out the escape window if I'm locked in. Or take the door off the hinges if I'm locked outside. I freaked out big time over the photo someone posted about that lovely situation.

I'm thinking once that started happening, ETI took a good, hard look at what was going on and came up with something to resolve that problem in the future. It's a huge safety issue, in my mind.

(I don't know when this started happening; if it's just with newer or old trailers or what, so I could be wrong in some of my assumptions.)

Somebody mentioned some time ago that there aren't very many trailer door locks to choose from due to the curvature of the door and body frame.

So, what if the body were straight!!?!? Would this solve the problem by being able to install a better lock? Maybe even be able to install a house door lock? I'd love to have a handle with a lever on it instead of twisting a knob or pulling on that black metal piece.

Would a straight body solve the problems some doors have of sealing properly when they're new? I don't remember the ins and outs of that situation.

So, hey, we're tossing out our ideas and these are mine.
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Old 02-03-2016, 05:45 PM   #83
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Wouldn't a straight body mean not so aerodynamic?
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Old 02-03-2016, 05:53 PM   #84
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Wouldn't a straight body mean not so aerodynamic?
Yeah, but if I don't get locked in/out of the trailer, I won't care!

Heck, I drove a 1989 Isuzu Trooper for 21+ years and that thing had a super straight body. Never bothered me and I rather liked the looks of it (until I saw the Toyota FJ Cruiser!).
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:15 PM   #85
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Wouldn't a straight body mean not so aerodynamic?
This was a comment about vertical sides. Flat sides - but still with rounded top and ends - wouldn't make any difference to aerodynamic drag. On the other hand, it's not practical to get a moulded fiberglass shell out of the mould if the sides don't have some slope, and if they don't curve you would have top and bottom slopes meeting in a vee at the waistline... not nice.
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:19 PM   #86
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What's wrong with how it is? I know there was a problem with some solar panels coming off, but ETI addressed that problem.
The problem of adhesive fastening was addressed by bolts through the shell, which is secure but puts bolt heads (or worse, bolts ends with nuts) in the interior. A better solution would be a set of raised pads filled with solid inserts, which would provide flat points to bolt on panel brackets (using threaded inserts) and a smooth interior without protrusions or metal fasteners bypassing the insulation. There have always been similar mounting pads on an Escape for the awning and the door hinges. That's a mould change.
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:22 PM   #87
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Casita did it with their 17. Our 16 had a curved door, which didn't fit as well as those nice flat doors, including screen doors, in the 17. Releasing from the mold is probably easier when you consider the top and bottom being formed separately.
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:22 PM   #88
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The problem of adhesive fastening was addressed by bolts through the shell, which is secure but puts bolt heads (or worse, bolts ends with nuts) in the interior. A better solution would be a set of raised pads filled with solid inserts, which would provide flat points to bolt on panel brackets (using threaded inserts) and a smooth interior without protrusions or metal fasteners bypassing the insulation. There have always been similar mounting pads on an Escape for the awning and the door hinges. That's a mould change.
Sounds good to me.
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:55 PM   #89
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My understanding is they are making Canadien and US molds for 2017. The Canadien molds will be the same size as the current trailer models. The US molds will be 40% smaller.
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Greg I see you have a French accent when you type.

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