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Old 03-23-2016, 01:37 PM   #241
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Speaking for myself only and no disrepect intended to the forum, I have been looking at buying an Escape 17B for several months. So obviously at the current moment I don't own an Escape trailer. I've been researching RV's for quite some time and the fact that Escape had their 2016 production sold out was a plus to me...disappointing...but still a plus. They appear from everything I've read and heard to be a very good company. I've been willing to wait and see about buying a 2017 given the good customer service and quality product I've heard about.

As for the new changes, they appear to be well thought out. I can see where some of the Escape changes might be industry driven as older products are phased out by product manufacturers and Escape has to adapt. I can also see where as Escape expands their production they have to change components to speed up production and keep their costs in line. Not to mention eliminating potential issues. Case in point..the frame windows require butyl tape which is a pain to apply and if not done right will result in a leak. The new frameless windows are a rubber seal...easier to install, seal well so fewer leaks, etc. Same with the awning in that it is easier to install, etc.

Having said all this it is only natural for me to go see what the changes will mean for me as a potential new owner, weigh the differences and determine if the changes suit my needs. Neither the windows or the awing suit my needs. Both have problems I'm not real keen on dealing with. Potential solution is to source my own framed windows and have Escape install them as well as an old style awning. Might cost me more...but then I get what I need. When this all shakes out...you have to be happy with what you buy. And I sincerely hope the changes are beneficial to Escape and it's customers.
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:43 PM   #242
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If you're like me, you sometimes have to 'think out loud'. This can be taken as wild speculation by some. I haven't seen any comments on this thread so far that are inappropriate or out of the ordinary. Just folks weighing the pros and cons of the new design - and that's good.
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:52 PM   #243
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If ETI waited and put out the pictures, specs, and features when the entire 'package' was complete then people would have the information they need and ask less questions.

People who are potential a Escape purchasers have every right to discuss their questions and concerns on this Forum. Let's remember This Forum is not "owned" by ETI or Escape trailer owners.

And .. All of the posts I have read are much more civil then the US Presidential Debates ....
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:56 PM   #244
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Great news..
"Thank you for your email.
After taking your idea to Reace, we have decided to offer the window packages as single pane non-thermal, double glazed thermal with extra insulation, and new frameless double glazed with extra insulation, on the 2017 models. The extra insulation is automatically paired with both double glazed windows in all 2017 models. Hopefully this will make everybody happy. J
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now that is "customer driven" !!
this potential customer is back in the line for a 2017 and very happy!
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:57 PM   #245
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I think it may not be fair or prudent to question Escape's decision to offer frameless windows based on internet postings or comments on other websites. I have several friends who have experienced leak problems with frameless windows on their new stick built trailers. I would attribute the issue with leaking more to faulty or haphazard installation than to design flaws with the window. With Escape's reputation for doing things the right way , I would doubt that Escape owners will face the same issues. Even the best product if improperly assembled or installed can be a source of problems.
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:59 PM   #246
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If you're like me, you sometimes have to 'think out loud'. This can be taken as wild speculation by some. I haven't seen any comments on this thread so far that are inappropriate or out of the ordinary. Just folks weighing the pros and cons of the new design - and that's good.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:05 PM   #247
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If you're like me, you sometimes have to 'think out loud'. This can be taken as wild speculation by some. I haven't seen any comments on this thread so far that are inappropriate or out of the ordinary. Just folks weighing the pros and cons of the new design - and that's good.
And another thought - by "thinking out loud" you can also get feedback from others that have been in the same situation or know someone that has the same product or whatever. You can also find out that others are thinking of it differently than you are and that's a good thing (sometimes! HA!).

My husband says he's fine with either design, so it's up to me to decide. But he said, once I decide, I can't bitch about it. Oh man! That might be tough. But, seriously, I know what he means. That's why I'm anxiously awaiting the word that we can trundle up to the factory to view one in person, both inside and out. I'll take lots of photos as well!

I've also asked ETI if it'll be possible to view both the older and newer styles next to each other (or at least the older style in the back lot where new customers won't be able to see it). I really want to see them side by side, or as close as possible. I want to walk around both styles. I've also asked if I could deploy the awning on both styles.

I'm fine with it being a 19' to compare, even though we have a 21' on order. It'll give me enough of an idea of what it'll be like in a 21'. Unless the 21' will be unveiled shortly.

And, Jim Bennett, that's why it's "agony" to wait. I flip flop from one style to the other in my mind about 50 times each day. Knowing I have to see them in person to really make up my mind, unlike you, who saw the new model in production. Knowing I have to wait. Ack!
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:06 PM   #248
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Speaking for myself only and no disrepect intended to the forum, I have been looking at buying an Escape 17B for several months. So obviously at the current moment I don't own an Escape trailer. I've been researching RV's for quite some time and the fact that Escape had their 2016 production sold out was a plus to me...disappointing...but still a plus. They appear from everything I've read and heard to be a very good company. I've been willing to wait and see about buying a 2017 given the good customer service and quality product I've heard about.

As for the new changes, they appear to be well thought out. I can see where some of the Escape changes might be industry driven as older products are phased out by product manufacturers and Escape has to adapt. I can also see where as Escape expands their production they have to change components to speed up production and keep their costs in line. Not to mention eliminating potential issues. Case in point..the frame windows require butyl tape which is a pain to apply and if not done right will result in a leak. The new frameless windows are a rubber seal...easier to install, seal well so fewer leaks, etc. Same with the awning in that it is easier to install, etc.

Having said all this it is only natural for me to go see what the changes will mean for me as a potential new owner, weigh the differences and determine if the changes suit my needs. Neither the windows or the awing suit my needs. Both have problems I'm not real keen on dealing with. Potential solution is to source my own framed windows and have Escape install them as well as an old style awning. Might cost me more...but then I get what I need. When this all shakes out...you have to be happy with what you buy. And I sincerely hope the changes are beneficial to Escape and it's customers.
I think you commented right on . Last time I looked it is prudent to research what you are purchasing . It will be your purchase , you are paying for it . Myself I learn things everyday on this forum , I also listen to advice , moll it over in mind and then make a decision or not and maybe keep digging . Pat
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:11 PM   #249
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Great news..
"Thank you for your email.
After taking your idea to Reace, we have decided to offer the window packages as single pane non-thermal, double glazed thermal with extra insulation, and new frameless double glazed with extra insulation, on the 2017 models. The extra insulation is automatically paired with both double glazed windows in all 2017 models. Hopefully this will make everybody happy. J
Customer Service"

now that is "customer driven" !!
this potential customer is back in the line for a 2017 and very happy!
I'm kind of confused now. Are the first two options the original window, with the sliders (and metal frames) in it? So, if you're getting extra insulation, you can get either the frameless, awning style windows, or the double paned, framed sliding windows? If so, that's kind of cool! Thanks for asking them that.

Question on the windows - do they crank out? For the frameless, awning type, that is.

Oooo, you could get both installed! Now, wouldn't that look funky? But you could get the back window to open now.
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I'm kind of confused now. Are the first two options the original window, with the sliders (and metal frames) in it? So, if you're getting extra insulation, you can get either the frameless, awning style windows, or the double paned, framed sliding windows? If so, that's kind of cool! Thanks for asking them that.

Question on the windows - do they crank out? For the frameless, awning type, that is.

Oooo, you could get both installed! Now, wouldn't that look funky? But you could get the back window to open now.
1. single glazed slider and NO extra interior insulation
2. double glazed thermal slider with extra interior insulation
3. double glazed thermal Frame-less with extra interior insulation

assuming they are the HEHR as Escape indicated previously in an email, then guessing the frame-less is the new HEHR 6400 glass series but still just a guess.
my being ignorant about trailers, the new 2017 Escape option will allow one to buy thermal windows for whichever version slider or frame-less the buyer is comfortable with. AND also very important.. to get the extra insulation option regardless of which thermal window is purchased!

Thank you Escape...a happy camper for now and probably a sigh of relief from those forum members wishing for me to be a bit more silent...!
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