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Old 03-21-2016, 08:00 PM   #21
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It will take some time to absorb the changes but really like the changes shown, listed here and on the features list. Thank you for the early peek Reace, REALLY Looking forward to the first now : )
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:12 PM   #22
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Not going to take any time with me. I love ALL the changes! Whoot-whoot!
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:15 PM   #23
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I like the new flat door with built in screen thats what i liked about lil Snoozy Can't wait to see the new 21 and 5ta. Jim
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:28 PM   #24
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No side lower (intake) vent for the fridge?
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:31 PM   #25
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Some of the new changes for 2017...
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12' Dometic Power Awning with remote.
Dometic 9500 Power Case Awning
This design is typically found on high-end Class A motorhomes and custom RVs and specialty vehicles. The biggest one I've seen was on the side of an IndyCar team transporter, running most of the length of the trailer and extending over the entire width of the service area beside it - at least 3 metres (10 feet).

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... does the new awning have metal supports to either the body or ground for better support in reasonable winds or light rain?
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is the previous awning with metal supports still going to be available?
The supports for the new awning are metal - they're just horizontal, rather than vertical or angled down from the outer edge of the awning to the bottom of the trailer.

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Clueless about awnings - how does it stay out like that without any supports?
The supporting arms are not immediately apparent, but you can see them under the fabric. They fold horizontally, instead of telescoping or folding down. Dometic's online descriptions are lousy, but the beginning of the video posted by Camping World shows the arms pretty clearly.

The arms need to be really substantial, as would any beam only a few centimetres (inches) high reaching out that far; the 16-foot version of this awning (assuming I've found the right one) weighs 46 kg (102 lb)... this one is shorter and so lighter, but it's still a substantial chunk of hardware... presumably at least 36 kg or 78 lb.

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The awning was something we were really excited about. Ease of use! It has an 8' extension with no need for extra arms. It has a built in wind sensor that will automatically close the awning if it senses too much wind. It is most susceptible to wind when fully extended, however you can open it only as much as needed.
This is certainly a major change! Reace, the mounting recess is apparent, but what did you need to go in the body structure to handle the forces on the awning mounting area? The weight of the awning (and vertical loads due to winds) multiplied by the long lever arm of the awning extension is a lot of torque. I've never seen this type of awning on a fiberglass shell structure like this.

The previous awning design required bending of the awning arms to follow the curved side of the trailer. Some other awning designs were impractical due to that curve. It's interesting that an awning that is not affected by curved walls is introduced at the same time as flat trailer sides.
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:34 PM   #26
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No side lower (intake) vent for the fridge?
Good catch!

Reace - has that vent just not been cut in yet? If the trailer has a propane refrigerator, it needs the intake; if it has an electric-only refrigerator (and I assume it doesn't, since 3-way is standard), it doesn't need the roof exhaust vent which is visible.
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:36 PM   #27
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Some of the new changes for 2017...
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Larger 28 gallon fresh water tank
Have any of the tank locations (fresh or grey) changed?

Details can wait for later posts or topics - just identifying some of the information which would be appreciated, eventually.
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:41 PM   #28
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The flat door has been accommodated by flattening the entire side of the trailer, so it fits in nicely... but there are reasons that the side was curved in the first place. Reace, what's it like to get these parts out of the moulds, with zero draft in the sides? It seems like it would be especially tough with the upper and lower parts bonded together before demoulding, so it isn't flexible. Multi-part moulds would work, but seem like an unlikely solution.
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:49 PM   #29
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Standard fridge is changed to Americana 5 cu. ft. 3-way RM2554 with option to upgrade to Americana Plus 6 cu. ft. 3-way DM2663 (double door).
That is very good news. The 8 series has caused ETI enough troubles. 24.88" wide, so the new entry door makes that possible.
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:56 PM   #30
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I may be a bit biased, and obviously in the minority here, but personally I prefer the old look.


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