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Old 04-13-2016, 08:14 PM   #381
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There is a possibility that Escape will not delete the standard automatic awning or they may delete but not credit anything. It is their perogative....


Jim I think your last sentence hit the nail on the head.

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Old 04-13-2016, 09:09 PM   #382
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I do like the willingness of Escape Trailer Industries to accommodate individual preferences. On the other hand, there are limits. Modern cars and light trucks are full of features which I don't want because they add complexity and associated cost, weight, and failures... but just try to factory-order one without them. Live up here and don't need air conditioning? Too bad, just pay for it and don't turn it on. Can wind your own windows? Too bad, the doors are going to be full of wiring and motors. Don't think you need two dozen airbags? You're paying for them and getting them anyway (and don't try to work on the interior trim ).

In this case, a manual awning might be a reasonable thing to ask about, because it would mean just omitting stuff without a requirement to re-design anything or to do custom construction. Leaving off the the awning entirely might be possible, too, but for the buyer installing an alternative awning with the interior already complete would be a pain. Having Escape install a different awning sounds to me like something that would not fit in the flow of production, but only Escape can say.

Maybe it's time to ask?
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:12 PM   #383
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There is a possibility that Escape will not delete the standard automatic awning or they may delete but not credit anything. It is their perogative....
Without an awning, you would be left with the recessed area designed for the awning looking a little odd. That is the way it was when I visited Escape Feb 29. It looked a little weird, but does look so nice with the awning in place. At that time Reace was still evaluating which awning to use. Given this recessed area that is now in the shell, I too have to wonder whether they would want to sell a trailer without an awning. I would be willing to give odds that they would not entertain using a different awning either, as they have to draw the line somewhere with custom mods.
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:24 PM   #384
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And, then there is the issue of buying in bulk.
They get the price they get by agreeing to buy a certain number of a particular product. What are they supposed to do with the extra awnings if people opt out? Would raise the price for everybody.
I expect for my next trailer that I'll opt out of wheels. They cause nothing but problems. Flat tires, potential for traffic accidents, need to buy chocks, have to replace tires as they age.
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:28 PM   #385
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But cmon, Jim. You have enough field camping experience to know that an awning that can only be deployed in a straight out/straight in with no ability to change slope or tilt in the field will not have a high level of practicality. Once one has years of experience camping and trailering, we can look at new products and determine potential shortfalls very easily without having to try one first. We all do it on this forum all the time on all kinds of products that we haven't purchased or tried yet. So far I've not seen any evidence to the contrary that this isn't exactly the case on this relatively new awning. I don't think it would be unreasonable to offer a Fiamma option (still a case awning retaining the clean lines) if it doesn't present any serious issues with assembly or reworking the existing molds, etc.
Not only have I had a trailer for 25 years now (except the last few months), when camping deployment of the awning is almost always done, either for shade, or rain. While I have admitted that I am a wee bit skeptical (I am a complete skeptic by nature, there are no ghosts, ufo's or bigfoot ), I fully trust that this awning will work great. I definitely am not going to start looking at an alternative until this one gets a good trial. I personally think it would be unfeasible for Escape to offer an option at this time.

I am not following wanting more than 15 degrees (assuming of course they can achieve this with the distance from the door). I keep it up and out of the way as much as possible. The old type with arms did need a good slop to shed water effectively, but this new one that automatically dips to dump water off takes care of that nicely.

If it is deemed to be necessary, I would be willing to pick up the tie-outs, and/or poles. A buddy with this type awning(not sure the make) uses straps tied down to those spiral tie-out stakes whenever the wind picks up.

Just as doubters may doubt, I have every right to look for the positives in this, and I am getting quite keen on giving this awning a go.

If I end up being wrong, no worries, I am certain something can easily be done to correct it, just as it works out for all those others things in life that don't work our right the first time.
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i expect for my next trailer that i'll opt out of wheels. They cause nothing but problems. Flat tires, potential for traffic accidents, need to buy chocks, have to replace tires as they age.
roflmao...
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And, then there is the issue of buying in bulk.
They get the price they get by agreeing to buy a certain number of a particular product. What are they supposed to do with the extra awnings if people opt out? Would raise the price for everybody.
I expect for my next trailer that I'll opt out of wheels. They cause nothing but problems. Flat tires, potential for traffic accidents, need to buy chocks, have to replace tires as they age.
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I expect for my next trailer that I'll opt out of wheels. They cause nothing but problems. Flat tires, potential for traffic accidents, need to buy chocks, have to replace tires as they age.
why didn't I think of that before that blowout on the busy highway?
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