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Old 03-22-2016, 12:01 AM   #61
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I will definitely be in Lynden tomorrow night. I am so glad
To have my orientation tomorrow. We'll be having a mini celebration rally!
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:03 AM   #62
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Congrats Sandy and enjoy, enjoy. You can give first hand accounts of the new trailer designs as well.
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:08 AM   #63
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I will definitely be in Lynden tomorrow night. I am so glad
To have my orientation tomorrow. We'll be having a mini celebration rally!
We need to pick up some firewood!
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:19 AM   #64
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The 19 standards on the website reflects the new changes as well as standard2 burner black stove and ss sink with single lever chrome faucet, medicine cabinet.
As we are in the pickle to decide old or new version, I would like to see specs, standard features and option lists from old and new version listed beside each other to compare. It's very nice ETI put on the new one right away, but now the old is gone (should have printed it off)
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:23 AM   #65
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I like the larger rear window in the 19 classic.
If you mean the rearmost curbside window... I don't think there's a difference. The two images Donna showed are not to the same scale, so it's hard to judge by viewing them together. I opened them both in photo editors, and in both cases with window length appears to be twice the wheel diameter (or 30").
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:44 AM   #66
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The 19 standards on the website reflects the new changes as well as standard2 burner black stove and ss sink with single lever chrome faucet, medicine cabinet.
Too bad.

I see the the Features list also has other 2017 items:
  • 12 Dometic Electric Awning
  • Integrated Screen Door
... but it still shows a 20 Gallon (not "larger 28 gallon fresh water tank").
The Pictures are still the first version.

Unfortunately, this is like the situation with the transition from 5.0 to 5.0TA a couple years ago: there's no way to know whether a particular section has been updated (unless you already know what to look for, in which case you don't need the web site). Have the Specifications changed? Who knows... There's no way to compare versions.
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:52 AM   #67
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As we are in the pickle to decide old or new version, I would like to see specs, standard features and option lists from old and new version listed beside each other to compare. It's very nice ETI put on the new one right away, but now the old is gone (should have printed it off)

It looks like perhaps only the 19 Foot Features have been updated. You can still save (by printing if you must, or save the page on your computer, or "print" it to a PDF file...) the other tabs and the pages for the other models, at least some of which have not changed. For instance, the 17 Foot Features still shows a Fiesta awning, although the 5.0TA shows the new "12 Dometic Electric Awning".
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:57 AM   #68
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It looks less like an egg and more like a stick of white butter. That's not a judgement, just an observation.

All I really care about is that it's not any taller. Any taller and it would require major changes to my garage, instead of the realitivly minor ones we had planned to fit the classic.
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Dometic 9500 Power Case Awning
This design is typically found on high-end Class A motorhomes and custom RVs and specialty vehicles. The biggest one I've seen was on the side of an IndyCar team transporter, running most of the length of the trailer and extending over the entire width of the service area beside it - at least 3 metres (10 feet).


The supports for the new awning are metal - they're just horizontal, rather than vertical or angled down from the outer edge of the awning to the bottom of the trailer.


The supporting arms are not immediately apparent, but you can see them under the fabric. They fold horizontally, instead of telescoping or folding down. Dometic's online descriptions are lousy, but the beginning of the video posted by Camping World shows the arms pretty clearly.

The arms need to be really substantial, as would any beam only a few centimetres (inches) high reaching out that far; the 16-foot version of this awning (assuming I've found the right one) weighs 46 kg (102 lb)... this one is shorter and so lighter, but it's still a substantial chunk of hardware... presumably at least 36 kg or 78 lb.


This is certainly a major change! Reace, the mounting recess is apparent, but what did you need to go in the body structure to handle the forces on the awning mounting area? The weight of the awning (and vertical loads due to winds) multiplied by the long lever arm of the awning extension is a lot of torque. I've never seen this type of awning on a fiberglass shell structure like this.

The previous awning design required bending of the awning arms to follow the curved side of the trailer. Some other awning designs were impractical due to that curve. It's interesting that an awning that is not affected by curved walls is introduced at the same time as flat trailer sides.
Just wondering , looks like the awning will hold water . How do you tilt it on one side ? We use those clappers for holding awning in light breezes ? Pat
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It looks less like an egg and more like a stick of white butter.

The Trillium, and trailers inspired by it such as Escapes, were always much less egg-shaped than (for instance) Bolers.

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All I really care about is that it's not any taller. Any taller and it would require major changes to my garage, instead of the realitivly minor ones we had planned to fit the classic.
It is apparently about the same height, but who knows if it is exactly the same? The Specifications page probably hasn't been updated, and any individual spec may or may not have changed. The ends look the same so the body length presumably hasn't changed, but the roof profile definitely has changed so the height might be different.
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