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07-21-2019, 04:40 PM
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#221
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA "Junior", 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi
Posts: 1,600
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Originally Posted by dmdunca44
David,
If we just split the bottom cushion, could we more easily get into the space below? Is there often a reason to get into that space?
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My batteries are back there in the left corner, periodic but infrequent access needed for maintenance, adding water. Under the center back bench is fairly empty, can be used for storage of things rarely accessed. Some electrical wiring & components on the right side - converter, EMS, secondary breaker box since I have the all-outlet inverter, and if you don't have a removable power cord the power cord coils up in the right back corner.
Bottom line is there isn't often a need to get under there, but when there is it's a big chore. Remove both side bench upper cushions and the pool noodles behind them, and the upper corner cushions in order to have room to maneuver the huge back seat and back cushions (the back one is thin but stiff with a plywood or paneling insert) out of there. Oh yeah, remove the table.
I think that with the back cushions split, it would be easy to just lift one side a bit and pull towards the center to remove them without disturbing the side cushions and removing the table - someone who has the split back cushions could better address that. The plywood seat base that serves as the lid to access under the bench is one piece all the way across - if I had the cushions split, I'd also ask them to divide that lid in the middle to make it easy to access under the back bench on just one side.
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07-21-2019, 05:27 PM
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#222
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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There is certainly no reason it can not be done after delivery, I'm sure an auto upholstery store can cut and resew the cushions and the back lid be cut with 2 more hinges added...
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07-21-2019, 05:36 PM
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#223
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Originally Posted by richardr
Thanks. I can feel the plywood through the seat cushion, so I sit on a pillow. When we get ours recovered, I like the idea of adding another couple of inches of thickness.
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Hi RICHARD yes really improves the comfort . It saved a bunch of money to just add more foam . Pat
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07-21-2019, 05:55 PM
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#224
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richardr
Thanks. I can feel the plywood through the seat cushion, so I sit on a pillow. When we get ours recovered, I like the idea of adding another couple of inches of thickness.
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I added an inch of high density foam under the standard cushion, at least on my side of the dinette. Before I did so I sunk through too.
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07-21-2019, 06:21 PM
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#225
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
Posts: 2,152
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Just looked at our build sheet:
$400 - convert bench seat to u-shaped dinette
$235 - extend back bench from rear trailer to front of seat 22"
$200 - cushion modification to fit modified u-shape dinette
$ 65 - 4" thick back seat cushion
$100 - divide both rear u-cushion seat and backrest
$210 - filler cushions for u-shape dinette
$100 - full wrap on all cushions So our u-shaped dinette cost $1,310. Worth EVERY penny. YMMV
This is our lounging area and we love it! There have only been a couple of times we've used our portable table to eat. We just use a serving tray to hold our drinks/condiments and the tray works just fine. We never had them install the post holder for the table in the floor so our floor is nice and flat.
When we had the battery problem in our 5.0TA those rear cushions were easily removed 20 or more times. Thank goodness they were split.
If you get the u-shape dinette make sure to change the back cushion(s) from 2" to 4" thick. That way the buttons don't poke you in the back. We also learned about this desire at the Mississippi River Rendezvous.
Enjoy,
Perry
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07-21-2019, 06:51 PM
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#226
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Yarnell, Arizona
Trailer: 2024 Bigfoot 21 Rear Bed
Posts: 545
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We found after 8 months that our dinette cushions were bottoming out. We replaced the 4" foam with a high quality 4" foam, then added 2" of rebound under the 4". The cushions are now very comfortable. We originally went with standard everything in the dinette as we suspected we would not like the foam or fabric for the long haul. It was expensive to change both but it does look and feel great now in an ultra suede. The upper cushions we left as standard, just changed the fabric, and yes, a pool noodle makes a better back angle.
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07-22-2019, 07:25 AM
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#227
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
Trailer: Escape 5.0 TA Oct 2019;current Escape 19 2017
Posts: 107
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Upfisk
We found after 8 months that our dinette cushions were bottoming out. We replaced the 4" foam with a high quality 4" foam, then added 2" of rebound under the 4". The cushions are now very comfortable. We originally went with standard everything in the dinette as we suspected we would not like the foam or fabric for the long haul. It was expensive to change both but it does look and feel great now in an ultra suede. The upper cushions we left as standard, just changed the fabric, and yes, a pool noodle makes a better back angle.
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What is “rebound”? Did you DIY? or use an upholstery shop?
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07-22-2019, 08:03 AM
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#228
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Yarnell, Arizona
Trailer: 2024 Bigfoot 21 Rear Bed
Posts: 545
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Rebound is an exceedingly dense foam, it looks like carpet underlayment made up of bits and pieces of foam. We needed a 2" lift as the standard 4" cushions had the table near chest level. A friend re upholsters aircraft interiors and we went to the hanger of North Country in Arlington, WA for the redo. The 4" replacement foam is dense aircraft approved foam, non burnable. Not that we were seeking aircraft ratings but were looking for a long lasting foam for seating. The biggest item in the budget was the ultra suede, 7 yards at $75/yd added up. We also managed to get the valences covered with the yardage bought. The bottom cushions were fully covered with fabric so the 2" of rebound is part of the bottom layer, leaving the bed option now less likely unless we buy and carry additional rebound. As we are just a couple with uninterested grandkids that is not a problem.
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07-22-2019, 08:34 AM
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#229
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
Trailer: Escape 5.0 TA Oct 2019;current Escape 19 2017
Posts: 107
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Upfisk
Rebound is an exceedingly dense foam, it looks like carpet underlayment made up of bits and pieces of foam. We needed a 2" lift as the standard 4" cushions had the table near chest level. A friend re upholsters aircraft interiors and we went to the hanger of North Country in Arlington, WA for the redo. The 4" replacement foam is dense aircraft approved foam, non burnable. Not that we were seeking aircraft ratings but were looking for a long lasting foam for seating. The biggest item in the budget was the ultra suede, 7 yards at $75/yd added up. We also managed to get the valences covered with the yardage bought. The bottom cushions were fully covered with fabric so the 2" of rebound is part of the bottom layer, leaving the bed option now less likely unless we buy and carry additional rebound. As we are just a couple with uninterested grandkids that is not a problem.
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Thank you. Very informative.
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07-22-2019, 10:46 AM
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#230
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: WI, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 465
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmurphy02
Wish I had known about this option when we did our build sheet, I would definitely have paid up. That big back cushion is reeeeeaallly long and unwieldy.
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Us too.
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07-22-2019, 11:39 AM
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#231
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeS
Us too.
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See #222
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05-17-2020, 10:45 AM
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#232
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
Posts: 864
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronn
I didn't catch it soon enough for my build sheet, I believe it was Perry who split the rear cushion in his U shaped dinette. We like the U shaped, but if I did it again, I would split that long cushion - too long and cumbersome!
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Finished this mod last week, Perry67 had this done at the factory, I believe it cost him $100 (Canadian?) to have it done with his build. Cost me $200 US, I probably should have shopped around!
Anyway, it is done and I like it, it was a pain getting into that area before. We have the Lagun table mount and this works great with the table up which our table is pretty much all the time.
We do use the space under the rear bench for seldom used used tools, bedding for the dinette etc. It sure will be easier than wrestling that humongous cushion and seat back when I want to get in there.
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05-17-2020, 11:31 AM
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#233
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I like that, I need to find an upholsterer.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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05-21-2020, 12:03 PM
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#234
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2020 5.0TA
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
We went with the standard fabric and lived with it for 3-4 years . We were then able to get other options .We bought Sunbrella fabric and marine grade vinyl . We like colors . The Sunbrella even though , solid doesn’t stain at all . Also love the marine grade vinyl with no worries , strong . Very glad we waited and got what we wanted . Pat
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Nice! Would you mind sharing what the flooring is?
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05-21-2020, 12:09 PM
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#235
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2020 5.0TA
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chama
Mineral Jet Formica pattern? Wait, that is the Formica pattern we selected for our just-finished build way back in September. Thanks to DW for her sharp design eye. I demand a refund for a custom Formica selection...(of course, just kidding!!). It is a good color for a small space and will be dynamite with maple. We have oak, of course, but that is OK also. I really, really do like the glass front upper cabinets and covet them, especially with 12 v lights behind.
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Would you mind sharing what this flooring is? THanks!
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05-21-2020, 08:19 PM
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#236
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LuGreen
Nice! Would you mind sharing what the flooring is?
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Hi LuAnne . The flooring I installed over Escape flooring . It is Allure planks at Home Depot . The color is Teak . It was Grip Strip Resilient Plank Flooring . Pat
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05-21-2020, 08:50 PM
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#237
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2020 5.0TA
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Hi LuAnne . The flooring I installed over Escape flooring . It is Allure planks at Home Depot . The color is Teak . It was Grip Strip Resilient Plank Flooring . Pat
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Thank you Pat! Love the grain and color.
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