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Old 09-27-2015, 05:43 PM   #121
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Just curious where you found "some trailers" given they are so dear on the used market.
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Old 09-27-2015, 05:59 PM   #122
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Ahhhh so THAT's the question!
Why do you ask? Are you looking for one too?
As I said you can PM me for more specifics, but as this is very competitive, and I've lost some opportunities...
Suffice it to say it's been five days and there have been posts for trailers for sale in the interim. Also, I posted a want ad. Didn't it occur to you some people may have contacted me?
And yes, upon further dialogue, they knew about the recall. I think there are more people than you realize who scout out these forums as well as the other RV forums.

As the old saying goes, buyer beware. I just was trying to be helpful, and remind people of that fact. it's curious that my helpful statement incurred such loaded comments... I didn't intend or expect to be under such off-topic scrutiny as I shopped for my own used trailer! Welcome, indeed!
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Old 09-27-2015, 06:01 PM   #123
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Wow! Such "curious" comments!

One has to wonder why...and the motive!
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So, I'm confused as to the point of your comments ...are you asking a specific question with regard to my Escape buying pursuit and potential purchase?

Or, is it more pertaining to the topic of not so forth-coming sellers?

What exactly are you driving at, or wish to know? Or better yet, explain the tenor of your comments! Pm me, if you'd like...
The point of my comment is simple (and I thought it was quite explicit, but perhaps I was wrong): two sellers are implicitly accused of dishonestly concealing information about their trailers, and I am motivated (as usual) by the desire to understand: how could someone who may not have even heard about the issue hide it?

Yes, I was only dealing with the subject of expected information from sellers. I applaud the effort to learn about the product before such a significant purchase decision.

Cathy provided an excellent summary of the potential issues with owners being informed, catching more than one scenario that had not yet occurred to me.
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Old 09-27-2015, 06:03 PM   #124
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Ahhhh so THAT's the question!
Why do you ask? Are you looking for one too?
I was about ready to ask you too as your comment in this post: direct link

I came across some used trailers recently, and fortunately having learned about this through extensive forum searches and research, was able to inquire thus of the seller.
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Old 09-27-2015, 06:05 PM   #125
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Let me make it perfectly clear that I am not implicitly or explicitly pointing the finger at anyone. Suffice it to say I been in contact with several people selling trailers recently and was disappointed that this recall was not disclosed.
I was merely commenting for the benefit of other novice buyers who may be looking. It was innocent and hopefully helpful. Cheers !
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Old 09-27-2015, 06:08 PM   #126
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I was about ready to ask you too as your comment in this post: direct link

I came across some used trailers recently, and fortunately having learned about this through extensive forum searches and research, was able to inquire thus of the seller.
Well, I really didn't expect this firestorm.
Please refer to my comment in #122. You can also PM me. I am done discussing it in public. Thank you! Cheers.
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Old 09-27-2015, 06:27 PM   #127
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Our trailer is part of the recall and I will get the welding done in the reasonably near future. I've looked at our welds and they appear to be in perfect shape. (And yes I know there can well be more to structural integrity than can be viewed externally)

My guess is that most of these welds would live safely for the life of the frame. My guess is that Reace has seen a joint that had started to crack and in his normal quality conscious mode decided to be overly cautious rather than take any chances.

In my opinion there is a sky is falling panic in some people about this recall that is probably blowing this matter far out of proportion. I could well be wrong and there could be many cracked ones out there but so far no one has reported that here.
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Old 09-27-2015, 07:18 PM   #128
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Eric, I don't get the sense that people think the sky is falling -- it' just one more thing to think about and figure out how to get done. We don't know yet if we have the 3" -- we have a friend who can do the weld. Personally I was concerned because someone quoted a welder (who refused to do it) who said that s/he was afraid it was too close to the fiberglass. For some of us getting things "done" to the trailer is non trivial -- especially if it is stored off site.
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Old 09-27-2015, 07:22 PM   #129
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Keeping this in perspective

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My guess is that most of these welds would live safely for the life of the frame. My guess is that Reace has seen a joint that had started to crack and in his normal quality conscious mode decided to be overly cautious rather than take any chances.

In my opinion there is a sky is falling panic in some people about this recall that is probably blowing this matter far out of proportion. I could well be wrong and there could be many cracked ones out there but so far no one has reported that here.

I agree. I bought my 2009 Escape 19 trailer as salvage with no title. It had jackknifed and flipped over onto the driver side, where it skidded down the highway on its rub rail.

The welds in question held fine! There was some fiberglass damage to the front, a bent front window, some crushed front overhead cabinets, and miscellaneous cosmetic issues, but consider the trailer stopped with such force that the fire extinguisher broke loose and nearly pierced the front shell, and you would probably agree these things are close to bulletproof. The only damage to the frame was a bent hitch coupler and a kink in the rear bumper, probably where it was used to pull the trailer back upright.

Anyway, here are my welds after six years.

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Old 09-27-2015, 07:32 PM   #130
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Wow! I think your trailer probably holds the record for the most exciting life history of any Escape ever! Did up you do the repair work? Must have been quite a project. Nice to know these eggs will hold up so well in an accident.
We were sick at heart this May as we travelled up I-5 near Tacoma and saw a Bigfoot that had just jackknifed heading south.
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