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Old 09-28-2015, 09:38 PM   #161
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What Greggo is describing is exactly what our 2013 15a has. The tube was notched, bent, the 3 cut sides welded back together and a 1/4 inch plate welded on the back. There is definitely no weld on the outside of this bend/joint on our trailer. I am a journeyman welder, trust me, I know what I'm looking at.
Can you attach a photo of your frame. Unless the frame shop was experimenting with your frame, all frames are miter cut and welded with a backing plate.

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Old 09-28-2015, 10:19 PM   #162
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See post #43. Bent = no recall.
What is depicted in #43 is not the "bend" on my frame. The photo shows a sloping curve, mine is a complete angled direction change right where the bend is. I'm wondering if there were other vendors used to fabricate the frames. Like I said earlier, not all Escape 3" frames seem to be created equal. Just to be safe, I plan on doing the mod anyway, heck the more steel there the better, esp when somebody else is picking up the tab.

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Old 09-28-2015, 10:45 PM   #163
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Can you attach a photo of your frame. Unless the frame shop was experimenting with your frame, all frames are miter cut and welded with a backing plate.

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Will do. I was planning on getting in touch regarding the recall and our frame this week as well.
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Old 09-28-2015, 11:04 PM   #164
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What is depicted in #43 is not the "bend" on my frame. The photo shows a sloping curve, mine is a complete angled direction change right where the bend is. I'm wondering if there were other vendors used to fabricate the frames. Like I said earlier, not all Escape 3" frames seem to be created equal. Just to be safe, I plan on doing the mod anyway, heck the more steel there the better, esp when somebody else is picking up the tab.

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I agree, yours does not look like the bend in Reace's picture. Is yours a really nice clean weld or a bend? I can't tell.
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Old 09-29-2015, 12:55 AM   #165
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When Reace referred to the earlier (pre-2009) "bent" design, I believe that he means the intact tube was bent, so there is no cutting at all at the angle in the frame - not this cut/bend/weld three sides idea (which is valid, too... just not what was done on early Escapes.

This is what I saw in earlier Escapes (back in the days when all Escapes were 17 Foot). It is a smooth bend which cannot be made sharply so it is much more gradual than the abrupt corner shown on any of these recently posted photos. I see now (but had forgotten) that it seems to have a reinforcing plate on the inside (also barely visible in Reace's photo). The attached photo is the first one I saw (in a showroom in 2006), just for different perspective from the same thing already shown by Reace in post #43. This is not subject to the recall, and has no issues that I know of.
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Old 09-29-2015, 01:04 AM   #166
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What Greggo is describing is exactly what our 2013 15a has. The tube was notched, bent, the 3 cut sides welded back together and a 1/4 inch plate welded on the back. There is definitely no weld on the outside of this bend/joint on our trailer.
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It that is the case, I would wonder if the mending plate is needed.
Even by this method, there is a weld across the bottom of the frame which is under tension, and is a potential failure point... possibly leading to a tear up the outside. The reinforcement plate reduces force on the bottom weld and reinforces the outside of the frame.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:23 AM   #167
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Well, we really need to give ETI credit for making the recall work and responding to costumer concerns in this instance.


Wewill ship the brackets along with instructions by the end of the week. Onceshipped we will provide you with an email identifying the mehtod of shipmentand a tracking number.
Pleaseremember to provide us with a copy of the invoice for reimbursement. Pleasenote after receiving feeback from several customers Escape Trailer Industrieshas opted to increase the cost for reimbursement upto $100cdn or $100usd.
Wesincerely apologize for this inconvience. Please feel free to forward anyquestions you may have.
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Old 09-29-2015, 04:38 PM   #168
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Reace and Tammy, you guys are the best! My kit arrived today, 2 day priority mail, includes everything I need with illustrated instructions.

Thanks!

Ps-after I posted this, I got a letter with more info and reimbursement instructions!
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Old 09-29-2015, 07:28 PM   #169
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I stand corrected. After taking a better look it is quite likely it was welded and ground smooth. It is actually easier to see the grind marks with the photo than the naked eye.So much for knowing what I'm looking at
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Old 09-29-2015, 07:35 PM   #170
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Can you attach a photo of your frame. Unless the frame shop was experimenting with your frame, all frames are miter cut and welded with a backing plate.

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Hi Reace, looking up close, its really hard to tell. Its absolutely smooth with no grind marks. Apparently, they did a nice job grinding the weld smooth.

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