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Old 10-06-2015, 09:34 PM   #201
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As far as I know no one has reported any here
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Old 10-06-2015, 10:08 PM   #202
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We have had 2 19' frame welds fail. Both of these units were 2009 trailers. The first fail was about a year ago and was chalked up to an overloaded hitch. The second fail was a couple of months ago and was not an overloaded hitch. Upon further investigation, the weak joint appears to be the culprit....thus the recall.

We can't be sure if these were just a couple of bad welds that finally failed or not...but I would like to be able to go to sleep with a clear conscience knowing that we are taking steps to prevent an accident.

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If you did not receive instructions with your kit, let us know and we will email it to you. The instructions should show on the 19' that the angle brackets get welded to the frame. Placement of the bracket is 8" from the center of the bracket to the weld. The photo in the instructions should clarify this.

Something else that has come up...some of the early 19' units have the battery mounted under the front passenger dinette seat. You will need to remove the battery and box prior to drilling the hole for the bolt.
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Old 10-06-2015, 10:26 PM   #203
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Thanks for the update Reace and for being so proactive with this
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Old 10-08-2015, 05:22 PM   #204
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Wow Reace. I suspect this "recall" may have been advised by legal council and that the two failures have happened due to inappropriate overload in one case and an isolated bad weld in the second. Just adds to Escape's rep. as having top-of-the-line customer service. Now I am wondering if I should just keep the repair plates around as a back up and monitor the joints. I know that Reace cannot go there but I am wondering what others who have experience with welding think?
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Old 10-08-2015, 05:36 PM   #205
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The odds are probably in your favor, but when a weld lets go under load, it lets go. The heat effected zone around it can be more brittle than the parent metal, and I wouldn't plan on it giving much warning. And if you are lucky (or unlucky) enough to see a crack starting, now you have a broken frame to repair, likely away from home, which would likely require more than the two plates. Like you probably feel, I think it's highly unlikely that MY trailer will fail (the "it will never happen to me" notions that we all get), but someone's did. I'm going to have the plates installed.
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Old 10-08-2015, 05:37 PM   #206
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Now I am wondering if I should just keep the repair plates around as a back up and monitor the joints. I know that Reace cannot go there but I am wondering what others who have experience with welding think?
Why wouldn't you, would be my question. That is pretty inexpensive for peace of mind considering there could be the potential for a hazardous situation.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:35 PM   #207
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2 out of what, 700 units? I have larger risks to worry about. The question I have for experienced welders is this. When a weld fails, does it do so gradually or catastrophically or both? Opps, I see Parker has answered my question.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:58 PM   #208
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I hear you. I look at what appears to be an excellent quality miter joint with a backing across the entire rear surface, and I just wouldn't expect there to be a catastrophic failure. But it's just not one of those things I feel like I can ignore, now that I know there has been an issue, and ETI has formally advised all of us about it. I don't live in fear of lawsuits, but I also don't want to take on the liability of ignoring the recall.
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:53 PM   #209
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There's no question that 2/700 is a pretty good track record but for me, it's a no-brainier. First of all, it's not known how many units might have sufficient fatigue in these joints to begin a deterioration of the joint making the mend necessary at some point down the line. Plus, right now you've got ETI standing behind you offering enough of a reimbursement to get it done on their dime. Finally, who wants to risk the (remote) chance of a failure while driving?

As for the liability laws in Canada, all I can say is that I hope they're not like ours.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:14 AM   #210
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Rich (or Mary) that's exactly what I was thinking. It sounds like the trailers involved were a few years old. It's possible that the trouble will show up after a certain number of miles or years.
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