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Old 09-23-2015, 01:29 PM   #41
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4" frame on our 19' completed and picked up January 8, 2014.
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Old 09-23-2015, 01:50 PM   #42
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Oh Boy! What a can of worms. I feel sorry for ETI to have been caught up in this mess. Especially since (as I understand it) the frames were made by another shop.


I'm not an engineer and don't even have my 17A trailer to look at yet .... it's in production as of Monday of this week .... anyway my thinking is wondering about the cause of this problem. As welding generally causes metal to become more brittle ... is this the cause .... under engineering? Or should we be looking at the stiffing effect of weight distributing hitches transferring more stress to this joint and aggravating the problem?


This comes to mind for me as I'm trying to decide which of the new WDH offerings I should ask for. Been tempted to forgo a WDH at all and try my trailer out first. Although I have never towed an RV trailer, I have towed cargo trailers similar in size and weight to my 17A for many miles without a WDH and never had a problem. Maybe because I have paid attention to my tongue weight.


So back to my original question .... can a WDH be part of the problem here - focusing stress to these welds? Where without one the joint would be adequate?


Thanks for your input,


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Old 09-23-2015, 02:07 PM   #43
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To help clarify what you are looking for...the first photo is a 2008 17' with 3" frame, however it does not have a welded joint but rather a bend and is not included in the frame recall.

The second photo is the front driver side of a 15' with 3" frame and welded joint...and is included in the frame recall.

Hope that helps.

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Old 09-23-2015, 02:14 PM   #44
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Thank you. Picture worth 1,000 words.
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Old 09-23-2015, 02:21 PM   #45
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Ours, too, was completed in January 2014 and has a 4" frame. (Just as a point of reference ... )
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Old 09-23-2015, 02:32 PM   #46
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Our 2013 19 was completed in July and has the 4 inch frame.
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Old 09-23-2015, 03:39 PM   #47
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Can this welding be done in the US for $50?
Not where I live . There are 3 welding shops in my area . Costs are between. $80 to $100 / hr
labor + materials & shop supplies. Minimum of one hour labor charge
If you can find a GOOD welder to do it for $50 I would be greatly surprised.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:08 PM   #48
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Checking frames for any brand of all-molded-towable should be a yearly maintenance item. There would be no way a manufacturer would be able to say "it's good until next Spring..." knowing each trailer is towed at different speeds on different roads by individuals who think maintenance can be anything from total ignoring to those that wax the underbelly of the trailer every 20 days.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:53 PM   #49
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Checking frames for any brand of all-molded-towable should be a yearly maintenance item.
The only way to confirm the structural integrity of the frame is to have the welds on the frame tested and the test methods would need to be contingent on the welding specification used.

This is not something an owner can do unless they pay for the testing and then you would really want to think twice before going down this road. I suspect not only would any spray insulation need to be removed but likely the trailer would need to be unbolted from the frame in order to access all the welds.


The frames on trailers such as Escape are required to pass certain certifications and inspections to comply to any applicable Canadian and US Vehicle Safety Standards among others.

I'm not too sure how you would include checking the trailer frame as a regular maintenance item beyond doing a visual which will tell you next to nothing other than yes, you may want to wax the underside on occasion.
I think the best anyone can really do is rely upon the manufacturer to provide notification in the event of an issue, which is what Escape has done.

I also wonder if there have been any catastrophic frame failures on any of the units noted as part of the recall. I'm certain someone would have heard by now.
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Old 09-23-2015, 06:26 PM   #50
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to those that wax the underbelly of the trailer every 20 days.
OMG, do people actually go that long between waxing?

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