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Old 09-26-2015, 12:12 AM   #81
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I spoke with a person selling an older Escape who's ad said 'cracked frame repaired' and he said the fiberglass body had to be lifted off the frame to properly weld and strengthen the joint. It was distorted and cracked so it was too late to just add a stiffener.
The difference between strengthening the joint preemptively and repairing the results of a failure is huge. I don't think the effort needed or cost of a repair should cause anyone to be concerned about the effort or cost of the reinforcement.

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To me, the repair (like the solar panel kit) looks more like a Band-Aid then a 'fix'.
The solar panel fix is an extra retaining system, to prevent problems if the original mounting system fails. The reinforcement of the frame joint is very different - it prevents the potential problem from occurring.

A Band-Aid fix just covers and temporarily patches an injury which has already occurred. That's entirely different from the reinforcement added in the recall, which improves the design and strength of the joint.

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Time will tell.
I agree. It took years to realize that this is a potential problem among the seven hundred trailers built with this design. In a decade or so, maybe it will be apparent how effective the reinforcement has been.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:44 AM   #82
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One question I've got about the frame fix for the 19 -- the instructions talk about adding two additional attachment points for attaching the body to the frame, but nowhere does it say how to make use of these new attachment point.

The picture shows an L bracket welded onto the frame with one flange under the fiberglass body. Presumably a bolt or something goes through the flange into the body, but details are missing. I guess when the kit shows up there might be more information.

Did the solar panel kit today. Took about an hour, including getting the tools together and cleaning up afterwards. Don't know if it will actually prevent the epoxy joint from failing. I suppose it might, but it does seem more aimed at making sure that if the joint does fail, the guy behind you doesn't catch the brunt of it. On the other hand, if the epoxy joint fails and you don't notice it quickly, the panel flapping around could do real damage to the trailer.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:59 AM   #83
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I can't help but wonder what this will do to resale values down the road for the 3" framed trailers.
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:11 AM   #84
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I can't help but wonder what this will do to resale values down the road for the 3" framed trailers.
Likely nothing. Either they have the bend frame ( as mine ) which isn't a problem, or, if they have the miter frame, it has been corrected, or both the buyer and seller are oblivious.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:19 AM   #85
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The switch to a 4" frame seems to imply there was problems with the 3" frame. Is this recall the only issue that has happened with the 3" or is anyone aware of other problems?
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:59 AM   #86
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The switch to a 4" frame seems to imply there was problems with the 3" frame. Is this recall the only issue that has happened with the 3" or is anyone aware of other problems?
Hi: prairieboy... I think the switch of frame members was more of a standardization. With the larger 5.0TA's and 21'ers dominating production it's easier to make all trailers with 4" frames. Alf
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Old 09-26-2015, 01:56 PM   #87
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It may be difficult to get the fix done to our 19 locally. Of the three welding shops I contacted, one flatly refused to do the work citing potential damage to the trailer, one wants me to take photos of the problem area and he will make a decision once he sees them, and the third doesn't think he can do the fix without the welding heat damaging the fiberglass. He is, however, willing to try but says he will need at least two to three hours to get it set up with some sort of heat shield and to complete the job. I think he may be stretching the time a bit but then, I'm not a welder. When I showed him the photo that ETI sent along with the recall notice, he smiled and said that this issue is common with any make of trailer that has that frame configuration and that his shop has repaired a number of them. So, at least that shop has the most experience.

I'm thinking the minimum cost is going to be in the neighborhood of $150-$200, that is if I can even get it done here. I don't mind paying the price as long as the work is good and the patch is going to prevent a failure. However, getting it done locally is looking a bit dubious at this point.

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Old 09-26-2015, 02:06 PM   #88
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He is, however, willing to try but says he will need at least two to three hours to get it set up with some sort of heat shield and to complete the job. I think he may be stretching the time a bit but then, I'm not a welder.
Given he said this, I do think he may not want to do it either. Even using an ultimate setup of an asbestos sheet, and a piece of tin should not take more than 2 minutes per weld to set up.

There must be lots of guys with portable welding trucks around that could do it for a bit of cash, no?
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Look for logging trucks. I'm sure you'll find a welder hanging around nearby.
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I wonder if ETI has looked into a bolt-on patch? It may be worthwhile to ask for those affected and can't find an appropriate welder.
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