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Old 10-03-2015, 02:51 PM   #11
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Rich and I ordered ours. Those of u who have one-- what made u decide on the 5?
Do u think towing and maneurability are improved?
Probably the biggest factor for us was the full size queen bed, and you don't have to climb over each other to get in and out. Also, very much appreciate the extra room on each side of the bed...I am not an expert at towing, but have noticed that 5th wheels are more stable in bad weather, especially cross winds.
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Old 10-03-2015, 07:54 PM   #12
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Rich and I ordered ours. Those of u who have one-- what made u decide on the 5?
Do u think towing and maneurability are improved?
In choosing an Escape... All fiberglass and quality for the price. In selecting a TA over the 21, the full queen size bed and the dedicated bedroom.

I do find towing nicer then my like sized last trailer, maneuverability not so much. My old trailer was a single axle, it turned on a dime.
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Old 10-07-2015, 03:10 PM   #13
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I think some stretches of our turnpike here qualify as "off road" as I seem to find things more in disarray than normal.
We find the same thing in PA Jim!

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Old 10-07-2015, 11:33 PM   #14
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Probably the biggest factor for us was the full size queen bed, and you don't have to climb over each other to get in and out. Also, very much appreciate the extra room on each side of the bed...I am not an expert at towing, but have noticed that 5th wheels are more stable in bad weather, especially cross winds.
Agreed.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:12 AM   #15
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I also agree, but the tandem axles also played a role in addition to the queen bed without having to crawl over someone. I was always somewhat nervous when I was towing my Scamp 19 that if I had a blowout on one wheel, both the trailer and the truck could contact and both would be damaged, even though Scamp provided the best unknown named trailer tires made in all of China. I switched them out for Maxxis tires at the first possible opportunity. Coming in a distant third was I really disliked the coupler and ball arrangement Scamp uses on its 5er. To hook up, you have to be dead center over the ball in all directions. With a real 5th wheel hitch you only have to be aligned in one direction, and then you tweak the height of the trailer/kingpin for coupling.
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The 21' has six inches less of a bed width than a queen but there is no crawl over also.

On the tandem axle, we see that our tires have 1820 lbs. on them. The 21' has a max of 4600. Don't know what the 5.0TA has. If a tire blows, how is 1820 sufficient? Even with 4200 lbs. loaded, that would be 2100 for one side.
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Old 10-08-2015, 10:32 AM   #17
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Perhaps the 4200 is spread over 3 tires or 1400 each? I know I recently had a flat, which I did not know and rode on for about an hour, there was no noticeable change in handling and the one tire handled the load. That said, I replaced the remaining 3 tires in case there had been damage inside to the single one and the opposite pair in order to match all tire treads. Expensive flat.....
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Perhaps the 4200 is spread over 3 tires or 1400 each? I know I recently had a flat, which I did not know and rode on for about an hour, there was no noticeable change in handling and the one tire handled the load. That said, I replaced the remaining 3 tires in case there had been damage inside to the single one and the opposite pair in order to match all tire treads. Expensive flat.....
I thought about the three tire spread but I think of the weight as on each side, two sides, not three, so it seems insufficient. Glad you had no problem though as I would expect to get down the road a few miles.
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Old 10-08-2015, 11:45 AM   #19
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I thought about the three tire spread but I think of the weight as on each side, two sides, not three, so it seems insufficient. Glad you had no problem though as I would expect to get down the road a few miles.
Bottom line is that if one tire blows out and the other tire on that side is slightly overloaded it is unlikely to also blow in the time it takes to find a safe place to pull off the road. Technically, if you use a Trailer Aid to change a flat on a tandem axle you are supporting approximately half of the trailer's weight on that single tire. Furthermore, tire load weights are very conservatively rated.
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I did use the trailer aid to remove my flat and install the spare, carry it in the front box.
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