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Old 07-30-2013, 10:53 PM   #21
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Great information Doug!

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Old 08-02-2013, 09:58 PM   #22
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I'll see what the wife thinks of the idea, but I may put adding a 3" riser to the benches on my project list. The bench might be too tall for her in that case, though. Raising the floor as well as the bench would work, but then it's be a tripping hazard.
Well, after sitting there tonight, "the wife" (who is 5' 4 1/2", btw) thinks that would be a good idea. When I'm sitting upright at the dinette, my chin is level with the bottom window frame, which puts my line of sight roughly in the bottom 1/3 of the window.

For those times when we care about the view, those extra 3" might just be key....
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:08 PM   #23
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I'd wait, sometimes we only opened the front cover a third for "privacy reasons" during the day and there were times we never opened the front cover. Try using the unit somewhat before trying to make some maybe unneeded changes.
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Old 10-12-2013, 11:29 AM   #24
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This thread is scaring me since I'm right on the edge of picking a 19 and trying to decide on options. I'm short and like Donna, I live in the Pacific Northwest. I'm buying a trailer because I want to be able to sit inside and watch the rain blow sideways on days I wouldn't want to be tenting. I'd hate to not be able to see out.

Thanks for bringing this topic up. I have not decided on a front or rear bed yet and it sounds as if this may be an important factor.

Is there anyone with a 19 that has a tape measure handy? If I knew how high above the bench the front and rear windows normally are I could do the math on how high I might need to have the seats raised. My legs are short enough I would probaly have to have the floor raised as well.

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Old 10-12-2013, 11:59 AM   #25
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Has Escape changed their front dinette window to a somewhat smaller version to accommodate the bunk bed option?
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Old 10-12-2013, 12:20 PM   #26
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WestEnder hit on the question . . what is the height from the bench seat to the base of the window. Torso height is the critical factor. Raising the bench and dinette floor area a few inches may be the ideal solution.
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Old 10-12-2013, 06:50 PM   #27
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Top of seat cushion to bottom of window: 26"
Top of table to bottom of window: 15"
floor to top of seat cushion: 19"

You'll likely sink into the seat cushion a couple of inches when you sit on it, so don't forget to take that into account.

Looking at the window, there's a lot of space between the table top and the window bottom. It may be because of the bunk option, but looking at the front of the trailer there is a flat section specifically for the window. Below the window, the front of the trailer isn't flat. So even if you aren't getting a bunk, it might not be possible to put in a larger window.
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Old 10-12-2013, 08:11 PM   #28
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Thanks Doug, you have just saved me from a problem. If I sit as straight as I can on the floor, my eyes are at 29". If I slouch a bit my eyes are at 27". If the cushions were soft, I wouldn't be able to see out of a 26" window. I'm glad I found that out before I ordered a trailer.

From the photos I have seen, it looks as if the rear windows are lower. Is that true? If so, is there someone with the rear dinette who would mind taking some measurements back there or who could measure how far off the floor the rear windows are? Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:11 PM   #29
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I can't help on the rear dinette, since we have the stock 19 queen-sized bed. Taking down and setting up a bed every night is a non-starter, as would be two of us sleeping in the front dinette area -- the queen-sized bed was what sold us on the 19.

If I were starting over, I'd seriously consider raising the benches in the front dinette (and maybe the floor as well, to avoid dangling feet). As it is, I'll add raising the bench seats to my list, though not at a very high priority. I do like having eye level in the center of the windows. On the other hand, I'll have to be careful not to raise the seats so much that headroom would be a problem.

It would be worth asking Reace if it's possible to put a larger window in front. I suspect it's not possible, but it's free to ask.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:59 PM   #30
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I've commented once before about this but what confuses me is the window/dinette height on some of the pictures that I have seen for the 21'.

I'm specifically referring to this thread: 21' Escape - MY impression and post #20. In the 2nd picture of that thread, the woman is sitting at the 21' dinette. Notice that the distance between the lower window ledge and the top of the dinette cushion is only an inch or two. She can see clearly out through the middle of the windows.

But when you look at the official pix of the 21' on Escape's site, the distance between window and cushion is a good 8" or so. That would put the average viewer back to seeing only just over the bottom ledge if that.

If I am to order an Escape trailer, I want the window/dinette height that I am seeing in the thread cited above. Whatever that takes, higher dinette, higher cushions, that is what I want. Maybe once the production 21's start arriving, we might get some definitive pix.

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