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Old 07-29-2013, 08:22 PM   #1
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Dinette height - 21 vs. 19

After seeing some pix recently of the new 21' Escape, I am wondering about the height of the dinette. When I visited Cpaharley (Jim) to see his 19' Escape, one thing I noticed is that I could barely see over the window sills when I sat at the dinette. Jim mentioned that the seats were actually 2" higher than normal but that still didn't help (I'm 5' 7", btw). I see the same problem in the pix that RickM posted here:

For Sale 2010 Escape 19' $24,500

4th pic down, the seats are well below the windows.

But when I looked at pics of the 21 that keager posted here:

21' Escape - MY impression

2nd pic down, the lady appears to be able to easily see through the windows. At first, I thought she might be tall but then I noticed the difference in the top of the back cushion vs. the lower window ledge. It's much smaller in the 21 indicating also that either the seats or higher or the windows are lower.

Since this was one of my reservations about considering an Escape trailer as my choice, if the pix of the 21 do show the ability to see directly out the windows, then I would be much more favorable to this trailer. I think one of the joys of having a trailer is to be able to sit and eat, read or have conversations while looking out at some beautiful views. That is an important factor for me.

Can anyone who saw the 21' at the rally confirm this? Or could the 19' be adjusted somehow to get this level of viewing?

Thanks for any information you can give.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:36 PM   #2
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I am 5'4" and I can see out the windows just fine. But, I have a rear dinette with a raised floor and I did ask for the cushions to be raised by 2" as well.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:56 PM   #3
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I talked to Tammy about this issue. The reason the windows are higher in the front of the 19', is because of the bunk option. The dinette is in the rear of the 21' and won't have the bunk option. I'm also 5'7" and could see out of the rear windows just fine. And, I know what you mean about the 19' windows, the bottom of the window hits me at about nose level...
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:20 PM   #4
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or, you can do what Colorado Rocky did and order the 19' with front bed and read dinette, a brilliant solution that if I had done, I may still have my 19' vs waiting for the new 21'......
here are her pictures The build has begun!
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We have no issue with the window height in the 19 like others, but we are so rarely sitting there during daylight hours, it really would not matter. There is lots of light let in, which is nice.

A front bed in the 19 just would not work for us, or most with two sleeping in it. Though possible, I would not want to sleep two wide in it very much. Kinda spoiled by the full queen bed.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:25 PM   #6
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Seems like a good solution to raise the dinette platform a few inches. Also, what size is the front bed, I didn't know that was a possible option?

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Seems like a good solution to raise the dinette platform a few inches. Also, what size is the front bed, I didn't know that was a possible option?

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I imagine the width would be the same as the dinette, 44". Two can sleep there, but you wanna be cuddlers.
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No, I am a all "over the place" sleeper, that would not work for us. -
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According to their website, the front bed is 54 x 80 and the rear dinette is 49 x 86 in the 21' which is 6" smaller than the Escape 19 model ( 60 x 80) for the bed but the dinette is smaller in the 19' it is 44 x 80. To me, the 6" bed difference is not relevant as compared to the rear dinette location and it's larger size. We spend more time at the dinette than in the bed.
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:26 PM   #10
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We spend more time at the dinette than in the bed.
A good example of how we all differ in usage of our trailers.

We spend 5 to 7 hours (in my case) to 8 or 9 hours (for my wife) in the bed, and on most days do not even use the dinette other than a marshalling area. Some days when the weather outside is not so good, we will do breakfast inside, and the very rare occasion supper, for a total of 30-60 minutes. It likely gets used more into the evening if it is ugly outside and we can`t sit around the fire or at the picnic table, when we will come in and play cards. and by then you can`t see outside anyway.

Like some others, the vast majority of the time in the trailer is sleeping. I just love to be out of doors.
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