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Old 02-14-2015, 05:22 PM   #161
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I believe raising the efficiency of a trailer furnace from 75% to 90% is a balancing act between initial cost and the cost of operation. If one consumes only a couple of tanks of propane a year , ,is a 15 % fuel savings that significant ?
Gotta agree and taking the unit up to 90% plus would also open up the acidic condensate issue. Dumping it out on the ground might be unpopular.

It's my impression the most desired upgrade would be a whisper quiet fan.

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Old 02-14-2015, 06:05 PM   #162
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I believe raising the efficiency of a trailer furnace from 75% to 90% is a balancing act between initial cost and the cost of operation. It appears that the majority of RV owners are not fulltiming and are mainly camping in moderate weather. Saving 15% on fuel costs is relative to the amount of fuel being consumed. If one consumes only a couple of tanks of propane a year , ,is a 15 % fuel savings that significant ?
I agree. I would prefer higher efficiency, but it is not an important factor for typical RV use.

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Gotta agree and taking the unit up to 90% plus would also open up the acidic condensate issue. Dumping it out on the ground might be unpopular.
Yes, this is one of the issues with condensing furnaces in residential use, but I don't know why the condensate couldn't just go in the grey wastewater tank.

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It's my impression the most desired upgrade would be a whisper quiet fan.
I agree.
The next for me would be using separate motors on the draft inducer and main blower (like every home furnace), so neither would run unnecessarily.

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All Escapes are getting the new Atwood; only the 21's present location has to be changed.
True - Reace explained this early on.

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.....especially at people talking about everything else except the issue with the 21's furnace being relocated.
I'm not sure what the issue here might be. If only the facts reported in the original post are allowed to be discussed, there should be no discussion of appearance at all, even the 21', because Bob only mentioned size and the consequence on drawers of the move.

The only thing I noticed being discussed other than the differences in the old and new furnaces, and the effect on installation in Escape trailers, was other properties of furnaces. Given that Bob's original post mentioned "other suitable replacements of the same size", this doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

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No other model is affected by this new heater and as such those with 17/19 & 5.0 TA don't have to consider the domino effect on aesthetics or storage.
I don't think that's quite true. The face of the furnace (which some people seem to find unattractive) will still look different in every model; the proportions are different so every model's cabinets will change at least slightly. I don't understand why the reportedly unattractive grill being visible from the door of the 21' would be relevant, yet the same grill being visible from the door of every other model would be irrelevant.
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Old 02-14-2015, 06:59 PM   #163
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So one thing I gather by this thread is that the original furnace in my home which was built in 1984 , works flawlessly, and yes it has a pilot light, is NOT 90% efficient
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:48 AM   #164
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I don't think it needs to be re-painted.... It looks fine and w/o a re-paint we don't have to worry about peeling paint in the future! G
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Old 02-15-2015, 02:04 AM   #165
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.....especially at people talking about everything else except the issue with the 21's furnace being relocated. No other model is affected by this new heater and as such those with 17/19 & 5.0 TA don't have to consider the domino effect on aesthetics or storage.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:13 AM   #166
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After with what he has had to put up with this last week, he probably will need a good stiff shot of something potent. Having to redesign and keep everyone happy can be pretty trying. Loren
No doubt about that, Loren.
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:54 PM   #167
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Wow Reace,

Looks much better and with the grill painted it will be great! Thanks for all your hard work! We had folks looking at ours yesterday and weren't sure what to tell them about the furnace but now we have pics for them.

When we bought our Casita in 05 the furnace grill was dark brown. Drove me nuts. I painted it white. It was metal, so heat tolerant paint choices were easier to come by. It wasn't long before everybody was painting theirs white and now the white grill is standard.

Anyway, good job. As the grandkids would say, you guys rock!

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Old 02-15-2015, 02:37 PM   #168
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I don't think it needs to be re-painted.... It looks fine and w/o a re-paint we don't have to worry about peeling paint in the future! G

I second this. The grill would look fine to me in black or brown. We are okay with whatever Reace decides.

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Old 02-15-2015, 09:15 PM   #169
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As someone with the 21 on order, I appreciate the design that preserves 2 drawers. If the wood color paint passes the durability test, then I would also appreciate that.
Thanks for your work!
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Old 02-16-2015, 12:17 PM   #170
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Dave, make sure that you bring your spare water pump.

We were in Jasper a week ago (didn't bring the Escape though). Malign canyon was fun, not as much ice as previous winters, and skiing at Marmot was ok (snow was also about average or slightly below). But I really like Jasper, it is much nicer than Banff.
Won't be using the plumbing in the trailer . water pump won't be a issue on this trip.
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