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06-25-2019, 02:27 PM
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#61
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,117
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Better than taking a 5th wheel and trying to turn it into a trailer. Can you believe this thing? And yes, it left the service station and got on Hwy I-40 in Arkansas!
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They really should have chains from the ball mount to the roof rack, would be more stable, laughing......
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06-25-2019, 02:36 PM
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#62
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by santacruzer
I hope they weren't traveling very far, they're almost dragging the asphalt. I'm pretty sure that would get you pulled over in California.
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I bet it would not be allowed almost anywhere. I would love to see how much weight is lost on the front tires.
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06-25-2019, 04:15 PM
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#63
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I bet it would not be allowed almost anywhere.
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It's obviously unsound, but it's not obvious to me what regulation is being violated. Note: common sense and intelligence are generally not required by vehicle regulations.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I would love to see how much weight is lost on the front tires.
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It's straightforward to estimate: the ball appears to be rearward of the rear axle by about 80% of the Xterra's wheelbase, and the tongue weight of a Scamp 19' is at least 400 pounds, so at least 320 pounds is transferred off of the front axle and onto the rear (in addition to the tongue weight carried by the rear). That's very bad, but still a small part of the front axle load (which is over a ton as the Xterra sits before loading or hitching).
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06-25-2019, 07:08 PM
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#64
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
It's obviously unsound, but it's not obvious to me what regulation is being violated. .....
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In California: (1)Unsafe Load; (2)Less than 4 inch clearance to road surface.
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06-25-2019, 07:29 PM
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#65
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Naugatuck, Connecticut
Trailer: 2017 50 TA, 2016 F150, 2.7 Ecoboost
Posts: 1,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfandrews
It'still 80%: I have an Escape 17, so if you take the length (`17') divide it by the width (6'8"), multiply by Pi x 10, you get 80%. So, my tow, at 3500 lb. capacity tows my Escape (2100 lb.) with 700 lbs. of stuff in it, and I'm right at 2800/3500 = 80%. I'm good.
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06-26-2019, 01:01 AM
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#66
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfandrews
In California: (1)Unsafe Load; (2)Less than 4 inch clearance to road surface.
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Interesting - I haven't seen a minimum road clearance before. "Unsafe load" would require more definition.
I doubt this rig has ever attracted an actual violation ticket, or ever will. In most places, if you obey traffic signs and signals, and don't hit anything, you'll likely never get a ticket, regardless of the safety of the vehicle.
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06-26-2019, 06:18 AM
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#67
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
Posts: 1,073
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Mmmmmm how this thread has drifted from Escape coming out with a new model
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06-26-2019, 05:03 PM
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#68
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Ennismore, Ontario
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19
Posts: 119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldtimer
Mmmmmm how this thread has drifted from Escape coming out with a new model
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YEs indeed, I still think the possible new model is very exciting does anybody have any updated information>?
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06-26-2019, 07:39 PM
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#69
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldtimer
Mmmmmm how this thread has drifted from Escape coming out with a new model
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That's not so unexpected on page 7 of a thread where the pertinent info was pretty well covered by the end of page 2.
At least we haven't seen any poutine-eating squirrels .
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06-26-2019, 07:45 PM
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#70
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Interesting - I haven't seen a minimum road clearance before. "Unsafe load" would require more definition.
I doubt this rig has ever attracted an actual violation ticket, or ever will. In most places, if you obey traffic signs and signals, and don't hit anything, you'll likely never get a ticket, regardless of the safety of the vehicle.
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Minimum clearance used to be generally accepted as 4". Now, the definitions can be different. California's, for instance, is height from the wheel rim to the ground, so if you loose a tire, then the frame, etc. isn't digging into the pavement.
Unsafe load is a field call based on the likelihood of loss of control due to response to unusual road conditions or emergency maneuvers. This rig has 'trouble' written all over it!
Edit: E.G.: High-centering and stuck at a railroad crossing (and a 15,000 ton freight train is about 3 minutes away at 40 mph.)
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06-26-2019, 08:21 PM
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#71
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Sedgwick, Maine
Trailer: No RV
Posts: 52
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Someone should write up a clear and measurable driving violation that a set up like this can be escorted off the road and easily stand up in court. We are getting entertained by the pic but we all know this could kill someone on the roadways
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07-09-2019, 07:40 AM
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#72
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Acworth, Georgia
Trailer: Escape 21NE (our third Escape)
Posts: 152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jim bennett
if it is a 21 with something closer to a 19 layout, it will sell well. I know a few with a 19 who would love this.
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take my money!
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07-09-2019, 07:50 AM
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#73
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Sedgwick, Maine
Trailer: No RV
Posts: 52
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I agree, my wish was for a 21 or 23 with queen bed at least like the 19. I have spoke to Maine boat manufactures as to why they are not in the Fiberglass Egg TT biz and it has led to a group industry meeting, Down East Maine is the leader in FRP lobster boat and mold manufactures, same work but Egg TT market has 10K boomers a week I understand as compared to a total of 15k lobstermen and the fishery is capped
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07-09-2019, 01:19 PM
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#74
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Wow, a Lobster boat on a trailer frame. I'm in.....
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07-09-2019, 01:26 PM
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#75
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,122
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the 21's bed is only 6" narrower than a regular Queen, and having the bed longitudinal makes it much easier for either party to get out of bed without climbing over the other.
I'd love to see a walk-around full queen, but that would require at least a 7' wide interior (60" for the mattress, and a 12" aisle on each side).
maybe a 23' could have a lateral shower in the front like the Casita, with a closet next to it, and still have room for a dinette, with a rear queen bed? I dunno, I like having the dinette in the rear as thats usually the better view where I'm camping.
I'm not a big fan of the 19's mid bath, as it greatly cuts down on aisle width and makes the interior somewhat claustrophobic.
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07-09-2019, 10:36 PM
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#76
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
the 21's bed is only 6" narrower than a regular Queen...
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That's the width of a standard "double" (or "full") size, so the 21' bed could be described as a long double
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07-09-2019, 11:19 PM
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#77
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
That's the width of a standard "double" (or "full") size, so the 21' bed could be described as a long double
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I've seen 54x80 listed as a 'Full XL', and in fact you can get fitted sheets in that size, albeit not quite the same selection
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07-10-2019, 12:05 AM
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#78
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Ponoka, Alberta
Trailer: 2016 19 classic "outta sight", jeep rubicon unlimited
Posts: 1,645
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
I'd love to see a walk-around full queen, but that would require at least a 7' wide interior (60" for the mattress, and a 12" aisle on each side).
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The 19’s queen bed is a walk around. That’s what I tell all my friends who camp in those enormous sized trailers. (I don’t tell them you have to walk outside to get around)
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07-10-2019, 01:27 AM
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#79
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
I've seen 54x80 listed as a 'Full XL', and in fact you can get fitted sheets in that size, albeit not quite the same selection
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XL = extra long (80" compared to the usual 75" for twin/double/full) and Full = double (the 54" width), so that makes sense; it's good to have the name used by suppliers to find bedding.
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07-10-2019, 06:42 AM
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#80
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA "Junior", 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi
Posts: 1,600
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[QUOTE=Marry;297199]
Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
The 19’s queen bed is a walk around. That’s what I tell all my friends who camp in those enormous sized trailers. (I don’t tell them you have to walk outside to get around)
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I guess that makes the 5.0TA a "crawl around"....or maybe a "walk under"
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