Wow - all exports temporarily suspended

[blhvet]

Sorry, should've specified that most of my travel has been in Alberta - other provinces will likely differ.

[Klem]

Originally Posted by Rossue

What I'm saying is do it with customer at home. This is just to test whether clearance to export has happened prior to official notification. If the first one worked I would do a few more to be sure. If it didn't work I would wait a week and try again.

An easy way might be. If you can't get ahold of ETI you could try the Office number. With all the ETI trailers passing through Sumas (or not .. at the moment) a person could call and ask the status. Might help? Good luck. I've called this number to check on specific questions before:

Sumas U.S. Customs Office Telephone Number: (360) 988-2971

[gbaglo]

I think we should leave it to ETI to resolve the issue.
They know what they need to do and who to deal with.
I don't think it helps to run interference.

[Klem]

Originally Posted by gbaglo

I think we should leave it to ETI to resolve the issue.
They know what they need to do and who to deal with.
I don't think it helps to run interference.

I was thinking of the folks driving around waiting for their chance to cross. They can get the info 'straight from the horse's mouth'!

In the past I worked with the Border Patrol a lot and they were great to work with, given the chance.

[Jake930]

Originally Posted by gbaglo

I think we should leave it to ETI to resolve the issue.
They know what they need to do and who to deal with.
I don't think it helps to run interference.

I agree with you fully! Leave it to ETI! If you don't know what your doing with those government agencies it can do more harm than good. We trusted Tammy and Resse to build our $ 30,000 dollar trailers, lets trust them to straighten this out.

[Klem]

Originally Posted by Jake930

I agree with you fully! Leave it to ETI! If you don't know what your doing with those government agencies it can do more harm than good. We trusted Tammy and Resse to build our $ 30,000 dollar trailers, lets trust them to straighten this out.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the situation. My comment was directed to the people who are planning on taking their new trailer across the border ASAP. I am thinking that once they pick up the trailer and are driving around Canada they don't use ETI to 'cross the border'?

From my experience the Border Patrol would have the most current information regarding the end of the suspension. It should be noted electronically and 'instantly' as it's updated in their database. ETI would have to wait until they received the notice however it would come to them, which would always be 'after' the Border Agents would know.

Do they have to return their trailer to ETI and have them take it across the border, and meet up at the restaurant as we did?

[rbryan4]

The issue is that a US buyer can't export it. Escape does that, through an export broker, and therefore the trailer is sold for "export only" to US buyers. Otherwise, it would be subject to Canadian taxes.

This means a US buyer can't pick up the trailer and take it across themselves. They can however immediately re-enter Canada, because the trailer has already been legally exported -the minute the export paperwork has been completed and it crosses the border.

There are several other rules for a legal export as well, such as, the trailer cannot contain any of the new owners possessions when it crosses. That's why Escape doesn't allow you to put personal gear or cargo in the trailer before it crosses at Sumas.

[Brian B-P]

If anyone is interested in current status information, without bothering Escape staff and without bringing the issue to the attention of U.S. border officials, why not just check the VIN Decoder, or in NHTSA's online Manufacturer's Information Database (MID), do a search in WMI (World Manufacturer Identifier) information in the SAE database for "Name contains 'Escape Trailer Industries' AND Country contains 'Canada'"?

The status hasn't changed yet.

[thoer]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

If anyone is interested in current status information, without bothering Escape staff and without bringing the issue to the attention of U.S. border officials, why not just check the VIN Decoder, or in NHTSA's online Manufacturer's Information Database (MID), do a search in WMI (World Manufacturer Identifier) information in the SAE database for "Name contains 'Escape Trailer Industries' AND Country contains 'Canada'"?

The status hasn't changed yet.

Excellent information Brian.

[bsmoke]

Great info

[gocamp]

LOL we all can post a link, but who can get that goofy colored exclamation mark to go away on that website for Tammy

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by gocamp

LOL we all can post a link, but who can get that goofy colored exclamation mark to go away on that website for Tammy

Tammy can herself, and she's working on it. We can't; all we can do is stay out of the way.

[float5]

The trailer remains empty when brought into the U.S. because it is a vehicle that would have to be inspected for contraband if the owners had already taken possession. The buyers usually take possession on the U.S. side, and not having taken possession yet when crossing the border, the agents do not have to search it. That is what I think anyway. You are not allowed to have anything personal in there. They figured at Escape that our WDH was not a problem in the box.

[Klem]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

If anyone is interested in current status information, without bothering Escape staff and without bringing the issue to the attention of U.S. border officials, why not just check the VIN Decoder, or in NHTSA's online Manufacturer's Information Database (MID), do a search in WMI (World Manufacturer Identifier) information in the SAE database for "Name contains 'Escape Trailer Industries' AND Country contains 'Canada'"?

The status hasn't changed yet.

That is so helpful, thank you!

Looks like the process has been in place since 2012.

WMI Application
For Non-US Based Manufacturers:
Beginning January 1, 2012, SAE will begin charging a one-time only fee of $525 USD for companies needing a World Manufacturers Identifier (WMI) code from areas outside of the United States where there is no governing body established to assign a WMI Code.
The code provided will be for on-road vehicles only.

[Patandlinda]

Originally Posted by Klem

That is so helpful, thank you!

Looks like the process has been in place since 2012.

WMI Application
For Non-US Based Manufacturers:
Beginning January 1, 2012, SAE will begin charging a one-time only fee of $525 USD for companies needing a World Manufacturers Identifier (WMI) code from areas outside of the United States where there is no governing body established to assign a WMI Code.
The code provided will be for on-road vehicles only.

Hi Klem so correct if I am wrong is the one time fee for the WMI a one time fee , the manufacturer pays ? Hopefully it is not for each trailer ? Is this something we need to be concerned about for our trailer back in Nov . 2013 ? What if we cross into Canada and then when we come back to the United Stares ? Pat

[Klem]

Originally Posted by Patandlinda

Hi Klem so correct if I am wrong is the one time fee for the WMI a one time fee , the manufacturer pays ? Hopefully it is not for each trailer ? Is this something we need to be concerned about for our trailer back in Nov . 2013 ? What if we cross into Canada and then when we come back to the United Stares ? Pat

Hi Pat, looks like a one time fee the manufacturer pays. Irma asked the same question about our next trip to Canada, probably in September. Now that we are licensed in WA common sense would be it should be fine for us. But who knows.... .?

[gbaglo]

When in doubt, panic.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Patandlinda

Hi Klem so correct if I am wrong is the one time fee for the WMI a one time fee , the manufacturer pays ? Hopefully it is not for each trailer ?

This is certainly for the manufacturer, and not for individual trailers.

Originally Posted by Patandlinda

Is this something we need to be concerned about for our trailer back in Nov . 2013 ? What if we cross into Canada and then when we come back to the United Stares ? Pat

I'm sure that it is not a concern for any trailer which has already been imported into the United States. When a U.S. residents visits Canada with a trailer, that's not exporting and re-importing the trailer - the trailer is just one of your possessions that you're taking with you - so there's no issue.

[Patandlinda]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

This is certainly for the manufacturer, and not for individual trailers.


I'm sure that it is not a concern for any trailer which has already been imported into the United States. When a U.S. residents visits Canada with a trailer, that's not exporting and re-importing the trailer - the trailer is just one of your possessions that you're taking with you - so there's no issue.

Thanks . Pat

[float5]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

This is certainly for the manufacturer, and not for individual trailers.


I'm sure that it is not a concern for any trailer which has already been imported into the United States. When a U.S. residents visits Canada with a trailer, that's not exporting and re-importing the trailer - the trailer is just one of your possessions that you're taking with you - so there's no issue.

Yes, we took possession at Sumas and stayed on the U.S. side for a couple of days, or three. We were without hook-ups checking the boondocking/inverter situation, and then went back into Canada for a big trip of several weeks through the Rockies. No problem getting back in. No import/export situation to deal with. Escape already took care of that when crossing to Sumas to give us the trailer.