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07-23-2016, 08:24 PM
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Thanks Tammy for the update. Seems every day here in the US we face another bureaucracy imposing new rules, and it's too bad you folks were affected by this. Good to hear you've made some progress.
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07-23-2016, 09:19 PM
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#182
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Thanks Tammy. I hope that this is resolved for you VERY soon!
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07-23-2016, 09:26 PM
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"Some strong discussion".... Way to go Tammy!!! Hope enough "patience" is left!! Hang in there!!
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07-23-2016, 09:45 PM
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After November we may all be living up there and It will not be a problem anyway.
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07-23-2016, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captmath
After November we may all be living up there and It will not be a problem anyway.
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Ooooo, getting political here!
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07-23-2016, 11:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captmath
After November we may all be living up there and It will not be a problem anyway.
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Unfortunately I don't think owning a Canadian trailer gets you any points on the Canadian immigration system! Don't ask me how I know this!
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07-24-2016, 07:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captmath
After November we may all be living up there and It will not be a problem anyway.
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Hi: captmath... I can see it all now!!! Long lines of Escape trailers at the border crossings migrating north. Usually a time when things start to wind down... this Movemember could be a busy travel month. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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07-24-2016, 08:06 AM
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Hang in there Tammy! I have to add my apology for the US putting you (and the others) through all this!
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07-24-2016, 08:48 AM
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07-24-2016, 09:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
Hang in there Tammy! I have to add my apology for the US putting you (and the others) through all this!
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Exactly
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Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: captmath... I can see it all now!!! Long lines of Escape trailers at the border crossings migrating north. Usually a time when things start to wind down... this Movemember could be a busy travel month. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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I already looked into it. For some reason Canada doesn't want a lot of aging retired Baby Boomer immigrants.
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07-24-2016, 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
Exactly
I already looked into it. For some reason Canada doesn't want a lot of aging retired Baby Boomer immigrants.
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Hi: thoer... I guess we have enough!!! Now if you're a Dr. we need you!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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07-24-2016, 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tammy and Escape Office
Hello Everyone
After some 'strong' discussions this morning
...I do not recommend anyone challenging their customs officer when he gives you his opinion (Lets just say I won't be crossing the border for a little while) .
Tammy
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Don't worry Tammy. If they won't let you across and you have a craving for something, Wine,Cheese, Beer, etc. we'll get to you. Iowa Dave knows how to skin a Muskrat with an Air Compresser. We can tie it inside and float it across. How bout it Dave you in
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07-24-2016, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tammy and Escape Office
I am not a patient person especially given the circumstances and I have been speaking with the US Customs Officers at the Sumas, WA border crossing on a daily basis. Ultimately until we show up in their system or they receive written consent from NHSTA we cannot import trailers.
After some 'strong' discussions this morning
...I do not recommend anyone challenging their customs officer when he gives you his opinion (Lets just say I won't be crossing the border for a little while) ....
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Considering all the money that the U.S. has made because of Escapes, one would think you'd get better treatment...
I think you are wise to bypass the less than optimal border person and deal with someone higher up the ladder...go get'em!
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07-24-2016, 08:54 PM
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When bureaucrats start feeling their oats, problems can arise. Speaking from experience. Loren
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07-25-2016, 03:44 PM
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Always make an accurate assessment of the power you hold in any Situation before you act.
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07-25-2016, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
Always make an accurate assessment of the power you hold in any Situation before you act.
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Yup, treat the border agent you deal with like a loaded gun. IMHO they have an inordinate amount of power. If they bar you from entry going higher up is usually unproductive. Their decision is their decision. There are Canadians who have owned houses 5 min. from the border in Point Roberts, WA who had to sell their house because one agent in particular barred them from entry.
Ron
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07-25-2016, 05:29 PM
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I agree law enforcement officers have a lot of discretionary power, but we should not fear them but respect them. Let's not forget, we pay their salaries, they work for us. Now if thry ask for a raise, that is another subject......
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07-25-2016, 09:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I agree law enforcement officers have a lot of discretionary power, but we should not fear them but respect them. Let's not forget, we pay their salaries, they work for us. Now if thry ask for a raise, that is another subject......
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That's the right tack. The border officials aren't the police. They have a charter with a very specific set of responsibilities and powers. If they exceed those, the best approach is to be respectful, end the encounter as quickly and peaceably as possible, then make a complaint through official channels. Believe me, the ones who are a problem will be found out if the citizenry complains enough about them.
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07-26-2016, 01:40 AM
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Wow - all exports temporarily suspended
I would show them a lot of respect, because they do wield a lot of power.
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07-26-2016, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbito
I would show them a lot of respect, because they do wield a lot of power.
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Again ,unless you deleted your story of border guards it was in my e- mail but not on the forum . Pat
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