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Old 11-23-2013, 12:14 PM   #31
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Jack, what was the measurement at ground level, but wait until it stops raining. The ramble set worked on the 19 with 14' tires, even with the 15' tires on the 21' there should be another 1" available? You can always cut the ramble set down 1" to make it fit. I'll check it out next week once Blackjack comes home.
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:26 PM   #32
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FYI. The ramble levelers also works on the 19 with 15" tires.

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Old 11-23-2013, 12:37 PM   #33
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FYI. The ramble levelers also works on the 19 with 15" tires.

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Good to know Dave. Then I see no reason why they will not work on the 21'? We will soon know.
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:31 PM   #34
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Question, are the scissor jacks that come on the 21 not heavy enough to use to level?
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:43 PM   #35
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I do not think that any Escape comes with scissors jacks but do come equipped with stabilizers which are used to stabilize the trailer. Scissor jacks are used for jacking the trailer or car and have a greater capacity and are a lot bigger and heavier. Stabilizers are used after you level the trailer with your front tongue jack then you lower the stabilizer to steady all 4 corners. You may still experience suspension movement which are minimized with wheel chocks.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:02 PM   #36
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I know Dave&Katie's new 21' doesn't have scissor jacks.. I looked. Theirs has the BAL stabilizers... which is what I prefer because they lay flat against the bottom of the trailer during travel.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:11 PM   #37
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I do not think that any Escape comes with scissors jacks but do come equipped with stabilizers which are used to stabilize the trailer. Scissor jacks are used for jacking the trailer or car and have a greater capacity and are a lot bigger and heavier. Stabilizers are used after you level the trailer with your front tongue jack then you lower the stabilizer to steady all 4 corners. You may still experience suspension movement which are minimized with wheel chocks.
Hi: cpaharley2008... Most stabilizers are the BAL or bal style type. Due to a shipping error by Escapes supplier a few trailers got scissor style ones. I think Reace asked customers if they wished to wait for a new shipment and/or was given the go ahead to fit them. Alf p.s. Excuse the old pic. you can just see the BAL style, folded flat ready to travel, sticking out under the service doors ahead of the power cord.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:32 PM   #38
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I know Dave&Katie's new 21' doesn't have scissor jacks.. I looked. Theirs has the BAL stabilizers... which is what I prefer because they lay flat against the bottom of the trailer during travel.
Donna, I will have to double check, but while the scissors ones don't fold up completely flat, I don't believe they are any lower than the tank drains, so really are not a limiting factor in clearance. I am really glad to have them. I think all the ones Reace used are BAL brand (or seem to be)- the full scissor can be used as a leveling jack, the other (one leg) only a stabilizing jack is my understanding. I actually retrofitted scissor jacks onto our Scamp as I had trouble with one of the popup type ones jamming on me.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:33 PM   #39
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Tell me a little bit about these stabilizer jacks. My Escape was one of a batch that came with scissors jacks. I can visualize the arm you are talking about and the fact that it retracts further against the bottom of the trailer. Just how does it retract? Are you using the wrench that Escape provided with a 3/4 inch socket welded on?

With the scissors jack I used a 18 volt cordless drill with the same 3/4 socket. It made quick work. With the stabilizer jack will I want to do the same thing?

Donna, I can agree that the stabilizers are better for the reason of retracting further. I sheared one off in a construction zone.
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Donna, I can agree that the stabilizers are better for the reason of retracting further. I sheared one off in a construction zone.
...then maybe I am wrong about them not hanging down lower than the drain pipes... I think these are the standard model?
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