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Old 11-05-2017, 12:07 PM   #31
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That is a big assumption -
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'twas a guess, not an assumption, with a winky face to boot.
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Old 11-05-2017, 12:30 PM   #32
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I am going to go out on a limb here,
Where's my chainsaw?

It is a bit of a quagmire topic. But having had 3 different types; propane, 12 volt compressor and engine driven compressor with cold plates, I know that there's all sorts of opinions on which one's best etc. My Dometic does well most of the time but there's been a few times that I've longed for one of the other two types.

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Old 11-05-2017, 12:57 PM   #33
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Thanks for pointing out the operational requirements. As with anything - there are always negatives (or at least challenges) that go along with the positives.
Truer words never spoken.

First, solar is just another source of energy just like tow alternator charging, generator and 120vAC plug in charging at pay campgrounds. Everything runs off battery, solar is one of many battery charging systems.

Purpose of the batteries is to carry you between charges be it solar, generator or 120vAC. To boondock longer you need more battery capacity that will replenish when sun rises, you drive away charging with alternator or reach a 120vAC source.

Anyone thinking of 12v refrigerator needs to understand that it's easy to do if you mostly stay at pay campgrounds with 120vAC OR have a good tow charging system OR are willing to charge with generator OR have plenty of solar capacity to charge during daylight. Any one of the these four charging sources will work. My "camping" style allowed me to use tow vehicle charging, no generator, no solar and could boondock 4 days.

Adsorption refrigerators costs a lot less than 12v units. Understandably, this alone will turn off many buyers. A well running properly installed adsorption refrigerator that does not constantly fail is an excellent way to refrigerate as LPG is a great energy source.

For those that plan on dropping off their trailers at a no service campground such as a national or state park for long period of time, you can not beat the advantage of an adsorption refrigerator. You could do same with a 12v refrigerator but it will cost more for supporting equipment such as more battery capacity and solar capacity.
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Old 11-05-2017, 02:42 PM   #34
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I thought I read on this forum recently that someone requested this type of install and ETI denied the request. They would not build the shell without the roof and sidewall openings. I can understand that ETI would agree to not install any fridge, as it just omits a step for them. But it seems they are seeking to streamline their production by limiting options that involve changing how/when//where they cut things.
Correct. I was told that I could not delete the openings. They would give a credit for the absorption fridge and modify the cabinet for a reasonable charge and let me install a 12V fridge. However, I just decided to start with the standard fridge and go to the 12V in the future depending on how it goes.
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Old 11-05-2017, 02:58 PM   #35
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Correct. I was told that I could not delete the openings. They would give a credit for the absorption fridge and modify the cabinet for a reasonable charge and let me install a 12V fridge. However, I just decided to start with the standard fridge and go to the 12V in the future depending on how it goes.
That may what we do. I think the fridge they install is a good value, large, and a Dometic, which they have strong ties to. Sure wish I could stop the big holes from being cut, but I suppose I could convert them into access doors later too.

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Old 11-05-2017, 03:16 PM   #36
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Not to be too much of a wet blanket on this topic, but I thought I read on this forum recently that someone requested this type of install and ETI denied the request. They would not build the shell without the roof and sidewall openings. I can understand that ETI would agree to not install any fridge, as it just omits a step for them. But it seems they are seeking to streamline their production by limiting options that involve changing how/when//where they cut things.

And, as to comments about running “on solar”. These do not run on solar. They run on batteries. So, to the question above, you _do_ need additional battery (beyond the stock single 12v) capacity to run these 12v only fridges. How much battery bank is needed depends on how long you wish to boondock, how hot the environment, etc. And then you use solar (or a generator or the TV) to recharge the batteries.
Thankyou for your post . There are a lot following the forum who do not understand . Many are first timers . Pat
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Truer words never spoken.

First, solar is just another source of energy just like tow alternator charging, generator and 120vAC plug in charging at pay campgrounds. Everything runs off battery, solar is one of many battery charging systems.

Purpose of the batteries is to carry you between charges be it solar, generator or 120vAC. To boondock longer you need more battery capacity that will replenish when sun rises, you drive away charging with alternator or reach a 120vAC source.

Anyone thinking of 12v refrigerator needs to understand that it's easy to do if you mostly stay at pay campgrounds with 120vAC OR have a good tow charging system OR are willing to charge with generator OR have plenty of solar capacity to charge during daylight. Any one of the these four charging sources will work. My "camping" style allowed me to use tow vehicle charging, no generator, no solar and could boondock 4 days.

Adsorption refrigerators costs a lot less than 12v units. Understandably, this alone will turn off many buyers. A well running properly installed adsorption refrigerator that does not constantly fail is an excellent way to refrigerate as LPG is a great energy source.

For those that plan on dropping off their trailers at a no service campground such as a national or state park for long period of time, you can not beat the advantage of an adsorption refrigerator. You could do same with a 12v refrigerator but it will cost more for supporting equipment such as more battery capacity and solar capacity.
Santiago Thankyou again for your knowledge and expertise on this subject Pat
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However, I just decided to start with the standard fridge and go to the 12V in the future depending on how it goes.
That sounds like a good plan. With luck you will have a trouble free experience and enjoy the benefits of propane, which are many on a trailer. Getting the large Dometic from ETI is an excellent value and now with the new Dometic models offered on new style Escape trailers, from what I read here are working very well.

Like my friends Clay and Cait and Steve (Hotfishtaco), you can always convert at a later date should the adsorption refrigerator not work out for you. Should retrofit be necessary at a later date you can cover all openings as you really do not need to do any maintenance behind unit. Your call.
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