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Old 04-21-2016, 05:30 AM   #21
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Thanks for all the comments. My apology that I was away from the conversation. Like Greg A and C&G in FL, I was attempting to have a mix and match setup for the Spitfire grill, the Ranger II, and a fire pit. The system would be comprised of:
- I assembled a Y with one 1/4" male fitting and two 1/4" female quick connect fittings.
- The Camco quick connect hose.
- I have the hose supplied by Escape with a quick connect fitting.

I though this would give me the most flexibility. I was surprised that the Escape hose worked with the Spitfire and not the Ranger II, but the Ranger II worked with the Camco hose. I did not try the Camco hose with the Spitfire grill, plus I did not have a chance to test the Y that I assembled. I will note that the female quick connect fitting on the Camco has an on/off valve. You must close the valve to get the male fitting to engage. You then turn the valve on. I'm thinking, that maybe I need to change the female quick connect fittings to this style?
Low pressure female fittings are made both with and without the shutoff valve. Assuming (not a good idea to assume) that all your fittings are low pressure fittings, I have no idea why one of your hoses will work with one appliance but not the other. It makes no sense to me. If they are all low pressure fittings, they all should work, the operative word being "should." When I was initially "converting" my Weber Q to run on low pressure (using a "remote" regulator rather than its built in regulator), I inadvertently used a high pressure fitting with a low pressure fitting and the gas wouldn't flow. It was at that point that I closely examined the two and realized what the internal differences were.

As Brian stated above, he likes a system to use a variety of hoses in different configurations. It makes sense as it provides the flexibility you mentioned. While it is difficult to troubleshoot why you are having a problem, I would think that you might want to make sure all your fittings are compatible. It is convenient to be able to link a couple of longer hoses together should you wish to get the fire pit further away from the trailer. I also have a "Y" and it allows me to run one long hose from the trailer's QC to the Y fitting, and the second long hose and the shorter hose I have to the grill and stove at the same time. Reconfiguring hoses to use the fire pit is both easy and quick.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:19 PM   #22
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Thanks to all for your input. I went to the camper today and inspected the fittings. You guys were right, the issue was the compatibility of high pressure and low pressure fittings. When I purchased the Spitfire grill, I took it and the quick connect hose supplied by Escape to a local hose shop to have quick connects installed. I'm sure that we discussed low pressure, but what I have found is that the fittings that they installed are high pressure. Hence, they work with the Spitfire grill, but are not compatible with the other low pressure fittings. I just need to change them out to low pressure and I should be good to go! Thanks again!!!
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I went to the camper today and inspected the fittings. You guys were right, the issue was the compatibility of high pressure and low pressure fittings. When I purchased the Spitfire grill, I took it and the quick connect hose supplied by Escape to a local hose shop to have quick connects installed. I'm sure that we discussed low pressure, but what I have found is that the fittings that they installed are high pressure.
Ah... there's the culprit! The extra fittings (allowing the hoses to quick-detach from the appliances) were not in the initial list of stuff used.

If you use the Escape-supplied or Camp Chef RV hose without extra fittings, you get a hose semi-permanently attached to the appliance. That works, but is harder to store and less flexible in use.

I would worry about that shop - if they don't understand that a grill without a regulator gets low pressure, any of their part choices could be suspect.
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Although I hadn't mentioned anything about it, and hadn't put much thought into it, I was wondering why people were building up quick-connect tees. The alternative would be to use an ordinary pipe-thread tee and one more female QC to put two permanent outlets on the trailer... especially since the quick-connect fittings are not really cheap.

Here's the answer, and it makes a lot of sense to me.
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I also have a "Y" and it allows me to run one long hose from the trailer's QC to the Y fitting, and the second long hose and the shorter hose I have to the grill and stove at the same time.
Since the grill and stove are probably used in the same general area, this can mean less hose to carry and one fewer tripping hazard.

It can still make sense to have two outside outlets on the trailer, especially if they are in different places (e.g. front and rear ends). Perhaps that's what Jim has in mind:
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We had it in the 19, and used it all the time. In fact, with the 5.0 I plan to install 2 of them.
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This is the Y connector and it plugs in right to the trailer QC. Costs about the same to try and build a T yourself and it works really well. These are really hard items to locate for resale.
Propane Quick Connect Y Adapter - RV Fitting - propanegear

I bought 2 Camco QC hoses and removed the regulators from all the appliances and put male QC fittings on the Weber and the Camp Chef so the QC hoses can detach and store separately. On the fire pit I used the Escape supplied QC hose and permanently attached to the fire pit because it coils right up into the fire pit storage bag.

Bought one of the folding tables like this:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trai...Table/45041725 which I setup right along the front of the trailer to setup the grill and stove for the kitchen. Awesome setup, and what I had envisioned when ordering the QC trailer option.
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My concern with on line feeding two appliances, is would there be enough capacity for both on the highest heat. This was my reasoning behind separate connections. If there is enough capacity in the one line to feed the 44,000 BTU's (10,000 Dickinson Spitfire, 34,000 Camp Chef Ranger II), I would definitely go with one line.

I will look into that later when I have more time.
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Jim,
No issue with running the Camp Chef and the Weber on the one line with the Y. The Weber seems to run much better than before when it had the regulator into a tank. However, I can't speak to the Dickinson Spitfire.
If we wait a few minutes, Brian should have us a complete technical breakdown on if it can...
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I too, cannot shed any light on that issue. I rarely run the Ranger II and the Weber at the same time, and when I have, it has only been one burner on the stove. But I had no problem with both the burner and the grill on high using a single hose. I do not think it would be a problem, however, considering the inner diameter of the propane hose and the sizes of the orifaces in jets in the stove.
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I know Reace once told me that if the line was not too long, I should be okay. I just know there is limitations in line capacity, just don't know what they are.
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This is the Y connector and it plugs in right to the trailer QC. Costs about the same to try and build a T yourself and it works really well. These are really hard items to locate for resale.
Propane Quick Connect Y Adapter - RV Fitting - propanegear.
I agree that if those are the connectors you want, pre-assembled makes sense; this place sells that assembly for about the same as the two female and one male connector parts would be, so the manifold block (which you can't buy separately anyway) and assembly labour are effectively free.

They also have a version with shutoff valves - Torjik QUICK•Y+ - which makes sense to me.
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