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Old 01-23-2014, 11:13 AM   #11
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I agree with you Jim. X2
How are the briquettes ignited in the EcoQue ?
The bricks sit vertically in slots under the grill, they do not just pile up underneath. Below that layer there is another little platform that you can place a firestarter, like the compressed wood and wax. You can also use the self starting bricks, but some people don't like those because of the flavor. Placing the charcoal is one of additional labors in setting up. Each brick sits edge-wise in the slots. Slots are on an angle so the outside slots hold only one or two and the middle slot holds about 5.
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:52 AM   #12
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Found a good video on You Tube showing how the EcoQue works. I do notice that both the grill top and the other panels now have edges. In the original Pyro-mid, these were flat stainless steel and the extreme heat wanted to warp them in use. Having rolled edges should eliminate that problem.

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Old 01-23-2014, 11:57 AM   #13
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Seriously, comparing charcoal briquettes to nuclear waste?
It's easy to miss the intent of those smiley faces sometimes - I have. I agree that charcoal briquettes are nothing like uranium fuel, and charcoal ashes are nothing like nuclear waste; I was just referring to the importance of fuel (and waste) handling to the use of any fuel-consuming appliance.

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And yes, since you ask, I do think you are missing something, like the benefit of keeping things at a simplistic level.
Although the propane equipment is more complex than a charcoal firebox, the use of that equipment to deliver fuel, light the stove, manage the heat, shut it off, and dispose of waste does not seem simpler to me with charcoal than with propane. Charcoal is still appealing, of course, but the simplicity of the process isn't part of the appeal for me.

I find that on RV trips we tend to make a full breakfast, with bacon, eggs, and coffee made in a french press. This is not simpler or more convenient than toast or cereal and instant coffee, but it is part of a more relaxed living style that suits the situation. For some, tending a wood or charcoal fire is part of that related style.

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... just because it is not your first choice (heck, it is not mine either), it does not make their decisions wrong.
Of course not! I did not say, and did not mean to suggest, what anyone else's choice might be. Perhaps the part of my comment which I have bolded below was not apparent...
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Bags of expensive and messy fuel that is essentially uncontrollable eliminate any charcoal cooking device from consideration for me.
Finally, to be fair, the EcoQue grill is a cleverly shaped (not just rectangular) box, which is probably important to how well it works. I wasn't criticizing the design.
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I favor charcoal whenever I have the time to wait for it but don't know about the lighting method. Can one start the required briquettes in a chimney and just dump them on the fuel grate as opposed to lining them up and using 4 fire starters? Been keeping my eye open for a more portable grill; then my Smokey Joe.

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Old 01-23-2014, 12:35 PM   #15
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I did notice the cover after I'd posted, makes it all the more attractive. And the video really tied it all up neatly, thanks! I had imagined that the briquets were in the lower compartment.
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I favor charcoal whenever I have the time to wait for it but don't know about the lighting method. Can one start the required briquettes in a chimney and just dump them on the fuel grate as opposed to lining them up and using 4 fire starters? Been keeping my eye open for a more portable grill; then my Smokey Joe.

The intent of this grill is to minimize the number of briquettes used. You would have to remove them with tongs and PLACE them in their spots. The video gives a good indication of how this works. You would also have a tendency to use too many this way and the grill would be extremely hot. I actually found that a couple of sticks of starter under the bricks started them very quickly because of the design of the EcoQue (aka Pyro-mid) and your separate charcoal starter would not be needed. If you want something more traditional, see my earlier post in this thread on the Grilliput. Happy grilling.
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If you are truly looking for something compact that uses charcoal or other fuels look below. When we only had a CRV I was trying to save weight any way we could. I found the UCO Grilliput, originally designed for back packers. You really can't get any smaller or lighter for what this does. I bought the fire bowl (which could be used separately for a small fire) with the grill. In one of the pictures you will see I added the tri-fold splatter shields you can get for your stove top to block the wind and hold the heat in. (Oh, I edited, by the way, that is a concrete table not wood or plastic, wood grain is from the forming boards.)

Amazon.com: UCO Grilliput Portable Camping Grill: Sports & Outdoors
Amazon.com: UCO Grilliput Compact Firebowl: Sports & Outdoors
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This type of reflector oven is very popular with some canoeists, which could easily be adapted as you show in those photos to using briquettes, or just use the campfire at your site. There are tons of plans for building your own online, or you can buy them already made. Many different styles too.

Here is just one.

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I had a folding grill similar to that Grilliput many years ago. Used it for beach cooking. We carried 12 briquets in an egg carton, and would just slip the egg carton under the grill, which we placed in a scooped out hole, and light it. All you had to bury was the ashes. Not a problem way back then, I imagine it would be frowned upon now.
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We carried 12 briquets in an egg carton, and would just slip the egg carton under the grill, which we placed in a scooped out hole, and light it. All you had to bury was the ashes. Not a problem way back then, I imagine it would be frowned upon now.
Great idea! As long as we use the cardboard type carton and not the styrofoam version. Brian
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I agree with Jim also and would also note that comparing the the use of a charcoal and propane BBQ is like comparing apples to oranges. These to the serious BBQ aficionado are two distinctly different methods of cooking that produce different tastes.

I think that the EcoQue would be quite interesting to try as for the mess of dealing with charcoal, sorry I just don't see it as a problem.
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