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Old 03-02-2015, 08:29 PM   #11
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Hee you go, an explanation Ford Demonstrates Trailer Sway Control for 2011 Super Duty - PickupTrucks.com News
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Thank you! So that is indeed the controller so that no other controller can be substituted. At least that is what I get out of it. And that Ford has its own advanced version of this. I believe it is what would be on the Expedition as of 2015 but possibly earlier. I believe 2015 is the first year for the Expedition to have Eco-boost, same Eco-boost as on the F-150.
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The Ford Integrated Brake Controller does work in conjunction with the antisway system (standard on my truck) and the anti-lock brake system. The brake controller is NOT standard, even with the towing package. It's a $275 option. By the way, the electronics of their controller are made by Tekonsha.
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Old 03-02-2015, 08:54 PM   #14
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For some reason I'm thinking the anti-sway does not activate the brakes in a conventional manner in that the brake lights are not activated and neither are the trailer brakes, but instead one or more wheel brakes are activated to stop wheel spin which can lead to the vehicle swaying. One time I can around a curve and I lost traction, the dash lite up with symbols and the car came out of the spin straight.
Yes, this is how modern stability control works, except that brakes are not just applied to stop wheel spin, they are applied to apply rotational torque in the needed direction (for instance, apply right-side brake to keep vehicle from spinning to the left) and they can choose between front and rear wheel for best effect (e.g. use front brake if oversteering, rear brake if understeering).

In the descriptions that I have seen the "trailer sway control" is just an adjustment of the behaviour of the programming of this now-standard vehicle feature. It is activated by an indication that a trailer is attached, which can be provided by the integrated trailer brake controller - all modern brake controllers test the connection to the trailer so they "know" whether or not one is connected. It's not a big deal to include in the tug, but it would certainly be beneficial for towing.

There are aftermarket systems from AL-KO (for Euro-style mechanical trailer brakes) and from Dexter Axle (Dexter Sway Control for North American style electric trailer brakes) which sit on the trailer and detect sway, then apply the trailer brakes when sway is detected. I didn't know if any of the systems in tow vehicles do this, until the article linked above. Also, the Dexter system applies the trailer brakes on only the desired side, which is fundamentally more effectively, and impossible for anything in the tow vehicle to do (because there is only a single brake control circuit from tug to trailer).
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That is one heck of a brake controller that Ford has, not having to reach down and try to manually stop the trailer while going out of control --- it will take care of the TV and trailer braking both. I guess it only works in Fords or I would run out and get one.
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