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Old 02-17-2016, 12:07 AM   #1
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Trailer Aid, two thumbs up or two thumbs down?

On a tandem axle 5.0 TA, two thumbs down. Scott
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:12 AM   #2
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On a tandem axle 5.0 TA, two thumbs down. Scott
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Curious why did you give it 2 thumbs down ? Pat
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Pat, on my bike ride home from work this evening I was thinking about taking the trailer into the shop this spring to chase down its brake demons. Last fall I tried using the trailer aid when I was adjusting the brakes, did not even come close to raising the trailer high enough to change a possible flat. Ended up using the trucks scissor jacks.

Carried that thing for almost two years, guess I should of tried it out first. Scott

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Hope that's not the case on the 19 since that's what I have, but haven't used it yet. However, my buddy that sent it for a trailer warming present used it on a 32 sticky to do brakes, bearings, new tires and rims with no problems. Wonder if it's an issue with just the 5.0?
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OH man. I've got one of those trailer aids in a cabinet. Guess I should start hauling the aluminum racing jack again...
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Pat, on my bike ride home from work this evening I was thinking about taking the trailer into the shop this spring to chase down its brake demons. Last fall I tried using the trailer aid when I was adjusting the brakes, did not even come close to raising the trailer high enough to change a possible flat. Ended up using the trucks scissor jacks.

Carried that thing for almost two years, guess I should of tried it out first. Scott

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Hope it works on the 19 cause I have one too. What if I added a piece of wood or those plastic blocks if I need more height ? Pat
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Two thumbs up from me.

A Trailer Aid has worked fine for raising one wheel at a time off the ground for adjusting brakes on our 21'. Seemed plenty high for changing a tire too, although I haven't needed to try that yet. It is much easier to use than a jack, and seems much more stable. The wheels on the other side were carefully chocked to prevent any rolling.

If you need higher, there is also the Trailer Aid Plus that is rated for 5.5" lift, versus 4.5" for the standard Trailer Aid.
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The website says that the lift is 4.5", but I suspect that this is simply the thickness at the middle; since the tire and suspension of the good axle both compress more when carrying the full load of the trailer, the actual lift of the trailer will be less. The Amazon page says there is also a Trailer Aid Plus, which is an inch taller.

The 5.0TA (up to 2016 spec, anyway) is different from every other Escape in that it has a leaf-spring suspension, which includes a rocker between the suspensions of the two axles. That means that if you lift one wheel it goes up somewhat before starting to carry more of the load, and more lift is needed to pull the other tire off the ground. That's in comparison to the Torflex suspensions (of every other Escape, including the 19', 21', and 2017 5.0TA, which are the other tandems) which are completely independent.

Since the Trailer Aid is only useful for tandems, and leaf-spring suspensions are by far the more common style in any kind of trailer but especially tandems, it's a little surprising to me that it doesn't work well for a leaf-spring tandem trailer.

So, it's more likely to have enough lift with models other than the current 5.0TA, and even for that leaf-spring model, there is a taller Trailer Aid.
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Two thumbs up from me.

A Trailer Aid has worked fine for raising one wheel at a time off the ground for adjusting brakes on our 21'. Seemed plenty high for changing a tire too, although I haven't needed to try that yet. It is much easier to use than a jack, and seems much more stable. The wheels on the other side were carefully chocked to prevent any rolling.

If you need higher, there is also the Trailer Aid Plus that is rated for 5.5" lift, versus 4.5" for the standard Trailer Aid.
I wonder if has anything to do with raising the height of the 5th wheel for the higher trucks? Mine did not even come close, the tire I was working on never left the ground, interesting. Scott

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The website says that the lift is 4.5", but I suspect that this is simply the thickness at the middle; since the tire and suspension of the good axle both compress more when carrying the full load of the trailer, the actual lift of the trailer will be less. The Amazon page says there is also a Trailer Aid Plus, which is an inch taller.

The 5.0TA (up to 2016 spec, anyway) is different from every other Escape in that it has a leaf-spring suspension, which includes a rocker between the suspensions of the two axles. That means that if you lift one wheel it goes up somewhat before starting to carry more of the load, and more lift is needed to pull the other tire off the ground. That's in comparison to the Torflex suspensions (of every other Escape, including the 19', 21', and 2017 5.0TA, which are the other tandems) which are completely independent.

Since the Trailer Aid is only useful for tandems, and leaf-spring suspensions are by far the more common style in any kind of trailer but especially tandems, it's a little surprising to me that it doesn't work well for a leaf-spring tandem trailer.

So, it's more likely to have enough lift with models other than the current 5.0TA, and even for that leaf-spring model, there is a taller Trailer Aid.
Thanks Brian, I always thought that the 21 and 5.0 TA shared the same suspension. Scott

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