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Old 07-23-2018, 03:49 PM   #1
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We've owned our escape 21 for a while, 5 trips. I'm several weeks into another rotator cuff surgery, due to this getting in and out of bed in our camper is painful just to be kind. We are thinking of going to an Oliver with twin beds, we had rather sleep together or our other pick a Bigfoot with the walk around bed in the rear, please don't throw stones.

I'm asking if anyone on this forum has any negative things to say about these campers. Don't misunderstand there isn't anything about the Escape that has disappointed us aside from my physical issues.
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Old 07-23-2018, 04:06 PM   #2
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We've owned our escape 21 for a while, 5 trips. I'm several weeks into another rotator cuff surgery, due to this getting in and out of bed in our camper is painful just to be kind. We are thinking of going to an Oliver with twin beds, we had rather sleep together or our other pick a Bigfoot with the walk around bed in the rear, please don't throw stones.

I'm asking if anyone on this forum has any negative things to say about these campers. Don't misunderstand there isn't anything about the Escape that has disappointed us aside from my physical issues.
I know what that pain is about . Last December completely torn my rotator cuff from the bone . I declined surgery though . I did do PT though which has strengthened the other muscles in the shoulder . But I will have to do for rest of my life . I haven't had a good nights sleep since last Dec. At home changed out the bed to adjustable it helps to be able to get head up . Pain is getting better as long as I keep up the exercises . I don't baby my arm but no lifting anymore .
Both your choices would be great and I understand why . In trailer we sleep on mostly a very soft latex bed . Me lots of pillows , can't sleep flat anymore , need head up . I also need to be at side to get out , no scouting out for me . Hope you can find something to work and can get some relief. Pat
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Old 07-23-2018, 04:08 PM   #3
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Olivers are very heavy, maybe another 1000# plus over the Escape....
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Old 07-23-2018, 04:43 PM   #4
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We has been looking at the Froli sleep system after people started discussing the need for ventilation under the mattress. When you mentioned keeping your head up, I remembered this adjustable headrest that looks like it can be added without the full sleep system. Just a thought!

https://froli-systems.myshopify.com/...able-head-rest
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Old 07-23-2018, 04:49 PM   #5
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What we didn't like about the Oliver (we did like a lot) was the length, weight and bed layout. If those three items don't bother you I would not try to talk you out of making the jump to an Oliver.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:04 PM   #6
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those Olivers are nice.. problem is they are heavy and they cost a lot..
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:34 PM   #7
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We has been looking at the Froli sleep system after people started discussing the need for ventilation under the mattress. When you mentioned keeping your head up, I remembered this adjustable headrest that looks like it can be added without the full sleep system. Just a thought!

https://froli-systems.myshopify.com/...able-head-rest
That's pretty cool . There is a lot more though . One for me I am not a back sleeper but I have too a lot of the time . Sleeping on either side because of the rotator cuff . Getting your head up helps with shoulder I guess staying in the socket it is supposed to be in and then less pain . PT and time is helping a little . You learn to make adjustments along the way too. I totally understand his dilemma. Truthfully like both his choices . If our bed doesn't work any longer , We would be going that route too. Pat
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:34 PM   #8
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I don't particularly care for the Oliver. It has some nice features, but overall it's not the trailer for me. IF sleeping separately is okay, why not make up the dinette into a bed? Yes it may be a PITA to convert back to a dinette on a daily basis, but maybe that's not needed every day. But it sure would save you a bunch of $$$ because you're changing trailer brands.


I have the u-shape dinette (with filler board and extra cushion), the back portion of the dinette is a twin bed size and I've taken some marvelous sleeps back there.
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:54 PM   #9
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What about a re configuration of a 21? By putting a 19 kitchen in a 21, and moving fridge and wardrobe up by eliminating the drawer cabinet, there should be room to put two single beds in the back. A dinette can be placed where the bed is.
Maybe worth asking Reace? There are more people that might be interested in an option like this.
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:56 PM   #10
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A friend moved from a Casita to a Bigfoot and she was very happy. If you do make the switch please report back.
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