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Old 08-19-2014, 12:08 AM   #61
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Sounds crazy huh? No one was allowed to catch runoff such as rain or snow melt. Allowing small streams to catch water and become larger streams to be used else where. No water runs into the state of Colorado. Nebraska got most of the eastern flow from the Platte River going into "Big Mac." And when I bought my house there, part of the price included $25,000 for one water right, just to stay hooked up. While living there, talk of restricting growth came up frequently.
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Sounds crazy huh? No one was allowed to catch runoff such as rain or snow melt. Allowing small streams to catch water and become larger streams to be used else where. No water runs into the state of Colorado. Nebraska got most of the eastern flow from the Platte River going into "Big Mac." And when I bought my house there, part of the price included $25,000 for one water right, just to stay hooked up. While living there, talk of restricting growth came up frequently.
Same as it was in Utah where I grew up. There was quite a booming underground industry in selling rain catching equipment, even though it "technically" could not be installed or used. People I knew pretty much ignored the law. It's good to see that nowadays in most of Colorado you're not an outlaw for catching water from the sky.
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Old 08-19-2014, 01:05 AM   #66
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It also is irksome that we pay the same at campgrounds as those running ten times the electricity and water. It seems that we are subsidizing them. At least in a monthly or seasonal set-up, meters are often used.
I agree, but it is not cheap to equip each site with its own power meter, and it would be a substantial hassle (or take even more expensive equipment) to read each of them for every short-term stay. Sites at Nk'Mip (the location of the annual Escape rally) are metered, but the meters are only used for monthly customers.

I've never heard of water metering in a campground - it must not be economically viable. Until a few years ago, even many houses in the city of Calgary did not have water meters, and just paid a flat rate like a camper. According to a news report,
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If a typical house uses a dollar or two of water per day, I can't imagine how it would be worth metering water to campsites so the thrifty can pay a buck less for a night's stay than the wasteful, even if it would be more fair. Local conditions vary, of course.
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Sorry... but this kind of nonsense gets my blood boiling. In my opinion, this is a horrible "ultimate camping accessory". It shows just how wasteful and extravagant some campers have become with resources at private and public campgrounds. I have noticed were more & more private campgrounds meter electricity at each campsite with good reason. Water will be next. The 40' class A motorhome with rain showerheads, twin AC, and multiple flat screens televisions all on pays the same for site usage as the 6' popup tent trailer camper. What's wrong with this picture?
My involvement as a volunteer with Texas Parks and Wildlife has been a real eye opener. Specifically helping to manage and maintain a state park near me.

I could see where that potable hot tub could strangely develop a large rip after the owners have gone to sleep.
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I have a lot of respect for you because of the very useful info that you had posted that helped us in configing our 5.0 TA, including a PM or two. However, are you kidding us... This forum is living in "la la" land when it comes to the mind set of most RVer's in our generation. For 99% of all we have met, bigger is better. Screw the next generation, grandchildren & all.. We earned it & we're going to enjoy it! For that matter, the younger generation is even worse... They want it NOW & if the parents can afford it (or put it on credit)... it's all good to go! The best we have heard, and if we could have got a 100 bucks each time (would have paid for the trailer) was... Is your trailer ever "Cute".

So much for going "Greener" & the "Small Footprint"...

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Careful what you ask for. If the campgrounds meter water and power the rates will go up for everybody to pay for the infrastructure. Best to avoid serviced resort campgrounds.
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Yes, Brian, probably not worth meters everywhere but I was not suggesting them. Just observing that we pay the same as those using far more.

Of course, there are places that charge by size of RV which we appreciated, the few times we have seen that. Nothing to stop places from charging by RV size which, in effect, would charge by size of water tanks and amount of electricity used since they roughly correlate. I would be happy to see more places charging by RV length where we get a better deal.


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I agree, but it is not cheap to equip each site with its own power meter, and it would be a substantial hassle (or take even more expensive equipment) to read each of them for every short-term stay. Sites at Nk'Mip (the location of the annual Escape rally) are metered, but the meters are only used for monthly customers.

I've never heard of water metering in a campground - it must not be economically viable. Until a few years ago, even many houses in the city of Calgary did not have water meters, and just paid a flat rate like a camper. According to a news report,

If a typical house uses a dollar or two of water per day, I can't imagine how it would be worth metering water to campsites so the thrifty can pay a buck less for a night's stay than the wasteful, even if it would be more fair. Local conditions vary, of course.
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