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Old 09-28-2013, 03:29 PM   #11
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When you install a Springfield 1660230 Pedestal for front dinette, are you still able to convert the dinette table into a full size bed? How many pedestal do you use? Do you have to order parts and ship it to the factory? Thanks.
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:10 PM   #12
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Tonny,

Xfer switch:
Some trailers may be harder to partially rewire for a transfer switch than others. I think our 19 should be relatively straight forward. I do not know of any problems installing a transfer switch, but I expect some to show up. I will need to install an additional breaker box. Until I actually do it in January I will not know how hard it is.

I am very leery about telling others how to wire 110Vs - this is lethal voltage. I would STRONGLY recommend you contact an electrician or QUALIFIED RV shop and have them do the work.

Springfield pedestal:
Although we do not plan to ever make the dinette into a bed, it should be doable. This pedestal is designed to go from table to bed height and will require 1 pedestal. We are planning to take it with us and have Escape install it on pickup day. (Although I am sure they would prefer we buy it and ship it ahead of time.)

I believe (but do NOT know) the pedestal used by Voilà, it's a dinette! And, voilà, it's a bed! is the same one.
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:24 PM   #13
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3000lb axles - not needed, but I like the extra margin
Hi Jamman,

I'm interested in your 3000 lb axles, and hopefully can ask you a few questions?

How much extra did they cost to add to your build?
How much extra weight do they add to the 19' approximate total dry weight?
What is the new GVWR?

Thanks! j
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Old 10-28-2013, 03:43 PM   #14
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Hi Jamman,

I'm interested in your 3000 lb axles, and hopefully can ask you a few questions?

How much extra did they cost to add to your build?
How much extra weight do they add to the 19' approximate total dry weight?
What is the new GVWR?

Thanks! j
Cost - $100 = $50 per axle
Added weight - I don't know but I think it is minimal - I think it is just different torsion rubber.
GVWR - No change

They must be ordered quite a bit ahead of time. Reace ordered them from Dexter 9/12/2013 for my 1/8/2014 delivery.

I did it to have more reserve strength/capacity.
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Old 10-28-2013, 03:51 PM   #15
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Cost - $100 = $50 per axle
Added weight - I don't know but I think it is minimal - I think it is just different torsion rubber.
GVWR - No change

They must be ordered quite a bit ahead of time. Reace ordered them from Dexter 9/12/2013 for my 1/8/2014 delivery.

I did it to have more reserve strength/capacity.
Thanks for the info. I'm just trying to figure this all out. It seems like the heavier axle would allow it to carry more weight. In reality, would it be more like a 4500 lb GVWR as the 21' is (with the 3000 lb axle)? j

Perhaps I'm just thinking about this issue in a wrong way...
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:08 PM   #16
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"Dometic A/C due to reports of extremely noisy new Coleman A/C"

Is the Coleman model the Polar cub? Thanks.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:52 PM   #17
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The "quiet model" was the Coleman Polar Cub. When they discontinued the Polar Cub, it was replaced with a unit said to be very loud. When I heard this, I went back to the Dometic. I couldn't see paying more for a lesser unit! I'll have to wait until next summer to see if I made the right decision!
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:57 PM   #18
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The "quiet model" was the Coleman Polar Cub. When they discontinued the Polar Cub, it was replaced with a unit said to be very loud. When I heard this, I went back to the Dometic. I couldn't see paying more for a lesser unit! I'll have to wait until next summer to see if I made the right decision!
After returning from a week in Florida a few weeks back I still don't think the Dometic is any noticeably louder than the Polar Cub. It may be to some but after 6 years having the Polar Cub I cannot tell the difference. We ran it a lot at night while there and with the digital thermostat setup it automatically changes to low speed as it gets closer to set point and cycles off completely when it does reach set point. It also seems to start smoother and with less of a bang. I think this is partially because it starts the fan first for about 15 seconds then starts the compressor so everything does not come on at once.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:02 PM   #19
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Glad to hear that the digital thermostat is working well with the Dometic. When my 19 was delivered last year, another 19 came with the Dometic, I had the Polar Cub. Standing outside the Dometic was louder. Inside was unknown. But with this 2 speed set up with the digital, it must be a lot quieter on the low speed. So all should be good.
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Thanks for the info. I'm just trying to figure this all out. It seems like the heavier axle would allow it to carry more weight. In reality, would it be more like a 4500 lb GVWR as the 21' is (with the 3000 lb axle)? j

Perhaps I'm just thinking about this issue in a wrong way...
Escape Industries sets the GVWR - and Reace said it doesn't change with the higher capacity axles. BUT it means each axle can take more weight/abuse if unevenly loaded. And for me, a cheap increase in the strength/capacity of just about anything for little to no weight penalty is good.

"Overly built" is just barely in my vocabulary.
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