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Old 02-16-2016, 11:39 PM   #71
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Cathy we have to push the trailer backwards up a hill turn into driveway and push it up another hill go between to 2 block columns without hitting them and it now has a home in the middle following a line in the concrete . The truck gets parked on other side and Subaru is parked on other . To get the Subaru out there just is enough room clearing the front A Frame of the trailer paying attention . With camper it was where truck is parked of course . Motor home also used to be parked there . The truck and trailer are almost 40 ft . The motor home was only 23 ft total and camper half of trailer . There is a sliding gate to cross over too . I really don't want 2 more feet to deal with or 1 foot 8 in . Also more width . We have everything we need in the 19 . Pat
Nope, don't think you can use another one foot eight inches. But I wish we had similar to you because we go an hour away to storage.

There was no 21' when we bought our 19'. Glad we had both though. Needs and wants change and everyone cannot use the same thing forever.
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Old 02-16-2016, 11:51 PM   #72
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Nope, don't think you can use another one foot eight inches. But I wish we had similar to you because we go an hour away to storage.

There was no 21' when we bought our 19'. Glad we had both though. Needs and wants change and everyone cannot use the same thing forever.
Had to enclose front some neighbors let there dogs free even though we have a lease law here . Besides scratching my VW and needing to worry about my 3 Shih tzu 's totally all 28 lbs . which their big dogs will go after if given the chance , it was just easier to enclose front . Also had problems with strangers coming up driveway when I was working in garage and startling me . So glad I did it for trailer also . Pat
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Another wannabe question. What is the manufacturer of the stoves that ETI uses and do they have a flush mount, glass top option? At least, have they had such an option in the past? I think I saw one in a 17 in the gallery. If this needs to be purchased does anybody know where the 17 owners purchase theirs?
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Old 02-20-2016, 09:54 AM   #74
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Atwood is used for the 2 & 3 burner cooktop- no optons at this time. ChrisR used a Dickinson marine stove in his killer 5.0 TA custom kitchen. Have been considering upgrading but it is a limited market out there. One that looks maybe doable is a Summit two burner with glass top and sealed burners with electronic ignition. Believe it is made by Verona in Italy. Would have to turn it sideways as it is a front to back model like most of them and is too deep to go in that way. Because it has a decorative rim the Verona doesn't have it may just work with the current cutout depth.
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Not sure why there are not more, better solutions for appliances here in North American, short of going the route of purchasing those intended for marine use. In Europe, there are lots of better quality choices to be had, including the Verona Ross mentioned. I have had a Dickinson two burner cooktop awaiting me to pick up and delivery to Escape, which I will do next Monday.

I really liked the SMEV unit we put in our 19, and there are some models available here in North America, but nowhere near all the great offerings they have.

Maybe a good business for someone to start up, building quality appliances for RV's?
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Old 02-20-2016, 02:29 PM   #76
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Not sure why there are not more, better solutions for appliances here in North American, short of going the route of purchasing those intended for marine use. In Europe, there are lots of better quality choices to be had, including the Verona Ross mentioned...
Maybe a good business for someone to start up, building quality appliances for RV's?
I think the attitude here for most RV buyers is that a better product is not worth paying for. Bigger, maybe, but not better. To pay for premium appliances implies an intention to keep them and the RV containing them for a long time, and there is little of that commitment. Boats are generally a premium market compared to travel trailers and motorhomes, so marine suppliers are good sources for all kinds of RV components and hardware.

I think it would be hard to succeed in the premium appliance market - it would probably take an exclusive contract with a premium RV manufacturer. I would suggest Airstream, based on their reputation and price, but having seen the inside of a few of those I'm sure they are not willing to pay for better quality and functionality.
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My experience of towing the 19 and then a 21 behind the same vehicle, a Jeep GC with the Hemi V8 is the same as Jim. With the 21 I added clip on mirrors and lost 1 to 2 mpg. Of course we added a larger aisle, bigger bath and don't bother each other if a late night has a call. We use the andersen WDH. We just left Quartzite Sunday and will be in Palm Springs until Monday. There is a vintage trailer display/rally here on Sunday and we enjoy the trailers we used to have when they weren't vintage. On Monday time to head for Tucson so Nancy can see how many of her plants are dead.
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Not sure why there are not more, better solutions for appliances here in North American, short of going the route of purchasing those intended for marine use. In Europe, there are lots of better quality choices to be had, including the Verona Ross mentioned. I have had a Dickinson two burner cooktop awaiting me to pick up and delivery to Escape, which I will do next Monday.

I really liked the SMEV unit we put in our 19, and there are some models available here in North America, but nowhere near all the great offerings they have.

Maybe a good business for someone to start up, building quality appliances for RV's?
Jim I like the SMEV as well. Where did you purchase the one for your 19?
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Atwood is used for the 2 & 3 burner cooktop- no optons at this time. ChrisR used a Dickinson marine stove in his killer 5.0 TA custom kitchen. Have been considering upgrading but it is a limited market out there. One that looks maybe doable is a Summit two burner with glass top and sealed burners with electronic ignition. Believe it is made by Verona in Italy. Would have to turn it sideways as it is a front to back model like most of them and is too deep to go in that way. Because it has a decorative rim the Verona doesn't have it may just work with the current cutout depth.
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The Verona two burner looks very nice. I see two versions one where it looks like it might br flush mount and another gas on glass version that is very sharp
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Jim I like the SMEV as well. Where did you purchase the one for your 19?
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Escape had them in stock when I bought my 19, as they were putting them in the 13' Trilliums they were building at the time for Trillium Sidekick in California. I doubt they are still available, but one could always ask.
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