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Old 07-16-2015, 07:55 PM   #1
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Smile Hello! from Olympia, Wa.

I have been reading the forum and want to join others new to the forum in thanking all of you for your informative and supportive posts. We ordered a 19' Escape and visited ETI about a month ago...stayed over at Harrison Hot Springs...that was fun and so beautiful. We have agonized over fabric and Formica..your pictures are very helpful. I feel like a kid with the"best toy ever". : ). Now, after reading many posts and viewing layouts, we are seriously considering changing our order to the 21'. We may come close to full timing for awhile in the future. The only concern I have is the TV.. We just upgraded from a Ford Ranger to a Toyota Tacoma v6 4x4 to haul the 19'. I have read through the towing thread and remain unsure about towing the 21'. I would greatly appreciate your ideas....
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:04 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, post number 1 on your part. Having had both models you are considering I can offer an opinion but it helps to know more about your style of camping, distances, frequency of use, number of travelers, pets are all things that make a difference. At the same time what I think are great features will mean nothing to the next person. It boils down to your needs, desires and tastes.

Perhaps more specifics on the Toyota, such as year, equipped with a towing package, any hitch plans, how may travelers.

Sit back, read and take it all in.
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:09 PM   #3
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Taking it you have the towpkg, 630-650 tongue load, 6300-6500 Capacity, 1305 or 1395 payload. The heaviest 21 I see on the real world weight chart is 500 tongue and 3800 total weight. The specs say it'll work, not knowing the truck can't say how it'll do in the mountains, either going up or down.
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:12 PM   #4
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Hi, Paul and Janet
Our Tacoma is a 2015 with towing package. We plan on ordering the Anderson hitch. There will be two travelers.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:02 PM   #5
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My two cents is to spend a week or two in the general vicinity of Sumas getting used to the rig on relatively flat ground, and (relatively) traffic free roads. Build your confidence up.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:27 PM   #6
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I tow my Escape 21 with a 2013 Tacoma 4x4 / V6 and have had no problems towing. So far I have towed the trailer more than 11,000 miles (I find that hard to believe). The truck does downshift going over mountain passes, but it can do the job. I'm happy with the combination.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:31 PM   #7
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Bruce, That is very good advice regardless of whether we choose the 19" or the 21'..thanks...Sheryl
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:34 PM   #8
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Mike, Thanks so much for your post. After driving a 1989 Toyota Dolphin motorhome for many miles over passes (downshifting to a max of 35 MPH) this will be a dream!
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:45 PM   #9
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I just read the specs for the 2015 Tacoma. There are some nice features with that truck and the towing option. It has a very good gross combined weight rating of 11,000 lbs and the trailer sway control is a nice feature. I just do not see anything, other than uphill power, that should prevent you from switching to a 21. The Tacoma will make it up the hill, it is just going to be in the truck lane, where it belongs anyway.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:54 PM   #10
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This has been our experience with a 21 and our Nissan Frontier, which has towing capability similar to the Taco. It tows just great... feels very smooth, stable, solid, etc., with our Anderson hitch... but at the top of a steep grade, 4500 feet, we're in the slow lane (driving 50 mph). The truth is, we drive 55 most of the time and stay in the slow lane a lot anyway. And at the top of the grade there have been enough curves that we would probably be driving 50 anyway.

I'm certain that trips over high passes (8,000+ feet, etc.) will have us going more slowly, but that's okay for us -- that's a tiny percentage of our driving. If we were going to be towing in the Rockies all the time, we'd want a beefier tow.

For us, we're very glad to have the mid-size truck instead of a larger one, and we're very glad we have the 21. As others have stressed, YMMV.
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