Hello - looking for lightweight camper - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Community > New Member Introductions
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 05-16-2019, 08:37 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
Trailer: 1992 Coleman popup
Posts: 4
Hello - looking for lightweight camper

Hello all, we are looking for a lightweight camper. I like the workmanship and price of an Escape. Will be perusing those forum for details. Does anyone know what a 17B weighs (with standard options)? Thanks.
__________________

Canajun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2019, 08:40 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Vermilye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 3,445
My 17B weighed in at 3010 pounds & 345 pounds tongue weight when I was towing with a V6 RAV4. When I moved up to a Tacoma, I let it creep up to 3100 pounds & 360 pounds tongue weight. This was loaded for a long trip, 1/3 fresh water, full propane tanks, and empty gray & black.
__________________

__________________
Jon Vermilye My Travel Blog
Travel and Photo Web Page ... My Collection of RV Blogs 2018 F150 3.5EB, 2017 21
Vermilye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2019, 08:48 AM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
Trailer: 1992 Coleman popup
Posts: 4
Sorry for my ignorance but is the 3100 lbs the loaded weight?
Canajun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2019, 09:03 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
azjack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tucson, AZ, Arizona
Trailer: gone, 19 and 21 & now we have 17B
Posts: 596
17B weight

Our 2018 fully loaded, water, wine, clothes, food, etc. weighs 3200# on the wheels, 400# tongue weight.
Jack
azjack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2019, 01:53 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 11,814
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canajun View Post
Does anyone know what a 17B weighs (with standard options)?
Assuming that by "standard options" you mean "standard equipment", meaning no options... that's the base trailer. The Escape Trailer Industries website has a product page for each trailer (such as The 17 Foot Escape) and on that page is a set of Specifications.

The base (no options) and dry (no fluids, so no water or propane) empty weight of a 17B is listed as 2400 pounds (that's 2150 pounds on the axle plus 250 pounds on the tongue).

Most people add some options, most people carry some water (or later, waste), essentially everyone carries propane, and everyone carries some of their own stuff. Escape notes in their Frequently Asked Questions that
Quote:
On average, most Escape customers carry about 800lbs 1,000lbs of cargo with them when they travel and add about 200lbs 300lbs of options to their Escape Travel Trailer.

Therefore, the
  • 17′ Escape, Plan A with a dry weight of 1,970lbs will travel fully loaded at approximately 2,970lbs.
  • 17′ Escape, Plan B (Bathroom) with a dry weight of 2,400lbs will travel fully loaded at approximately 3,400lbs
...
There was a recent problem with the Escape website, so specifications were not available for a while, and anyone looking for them would not have been able to find them.
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2019, 02:01 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 11,814
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye View Post
My 17B weighed in at 3010 pounds & 345 pounds tongue weight when I was towing with a V6 RAV4. When I moved up to a Tacoma, I let it creep up to 3100 pounds & 360 pounds tongue weight.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canajun View Post
Sorry for my ignorance but is the 3100 lbs the loaded weight?
It's not obvious to me, either. Is it
  • 3100 pounds total including 360 pounds tongue weight, or
  • 3100 pounds on the axle plus 360 pounds tongue weight?
Sorry Jon, I know that you have clarified this before, but I don't recall which one it was.

If 3100 pounds is total, that would be lighter than average; if 3100 pounds is axle weight, then the total (with 360 pounds of tongue weight) would be 3460 pounds (about average, maybe even still a little lighter than average).

Quote:
Originally Posted by azjack View Post
Our 2018 fully loaded, water, wine, clothes, food, etc. weighs 3200# on the wheels, 400# tongue weight.
... so 3600 pounds total.

When you're comparing trailers, only the weight of the empty trailer with your selected options matters to the comparison, since you'll add the same amount of your stuff to any trailer. When you're considering what your tow vehicle can handle, it's the total loaded weight (with option, fluids, and your stuff) that matters, as well as the tongue weight (a separate issue).
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2019, 08:01 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Vermilye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 3,445
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canajun View Post
Sorry for my ignorance but is the 3100 lbs the loaded weight?
Both were loaded weights, ie the weight of the trailer including the tongue weight. If I was giving the axle weight (total weight minus the tongue weight), I'd label it as axle weight rather than trailer weight.

This was a 2011 17B, which is a bit lighter than the 2nd generation versions.
__________________

__________________
Jon Vermilye My Travel Blog
Travel and Photo Web Page ... My Collection of RV Blogs 2018 F150 3.5EB, 2017 21
Vermilye is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Escape Trailer Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
×