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Old 08-29-2017, 12:01 AM   #1
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Hello,

We are a family of 3 and have made a decision to make the jump from tenting to an RV. Our daughter is 11 and we are active outside normally all day. So the RV would be used for sleeping, meals and if we run into poor weather - shelter.

Our budget and tow vehicle (2008 Sienna) leave us with two options. The 17a or 17b. Obviously the smaller units there will always be a compromise but does anyone have an opinion on how useful the washroom is or is it better to have the larger dinette. If we went with 17b the four piece would be changed to permanent bed leaving us with small dinette but a washroom for the 2am nature calls. I guess the 17a could be outfitted with a portapotti leaving us a larger dinette. Just having a hard time deciding which is more beneficial

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Old 08-29-2017, 12:14 AM   #2
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If you have been tenting all along as I had been doing, going without a bathroom in a trailer should not be too difficult for you. I went that route (15A) knowing that I would truly appreciate the large dining table, too. But it all depends on where and how you plan to camp in the future. Your needs might evolve as your daughter "outgrows" camping with you (and that will happen sooner than you think). The bathroom unit takes up a huge amount of space in a trailer but some folks simply cannot do without them. Just give a lot of thought as to how you expect to use the trailer and where you expect to be camping.

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Old 08-29-2017, 12:42 AM   #3
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17A or B

I agree with Karen. We have an almost 11 year old son and have found that having the larger area in our 15A has been great. We are close enough to the bathrooms when we camp, so that's not been an issue. The 17 gives even more room. Just consider what works if a friend comes along as well. For us, everyone ended up in the trailer!
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:11 AM   #4
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I on the other hand couldn't live without the bathroom!
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:12 AM   #5
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As Karen stated, it all depends and then there are "Depends".....
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:24 AM   #6
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"You can never miss what you've never had."

When I was shopping for my first all-molded towable, I thought I'd buy the smallest one I could get and no bathroom. Well fate said otherwise and I ended up buying one size larger and it came with a fully functional bathroom.

Like so many on this forum, my camping background includes a lot of "roughing" it.

I'm now on my second trailer and it also has a fully functional bathroom. I'll never own a TT without one! I would miss it.

More importantly, I don't want to be restricted to where I camp or how I camp or what sites I should choose because it's close to a bathroom. I'd rather choose a site based on the view or size of site, etc.

But, this is about you... not me. Choose well.
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:01 AM   #7
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More importantly, I don't want to be restricted to where I camp or how I camp or what sites I should choose because it's close to a bathroom. I'd rather choose a site based on the view or size of site, etc.
Completely agree. The more you explore and travel, the more you will likely enjoy having a bathroom. Yes, it comes with having to dump the tanks and it takes up room in the trailer, but it puts you in position to expand your horizons and enjoy your adventures by having a home base to resolve basic human needs.
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Am enjoying this conversation, particularly the thought that one must haul a bathroom around in order to expand one's horizons and not be restricted in the choice of camp sites or camping styles. But the mere task of hauling an RV restricts one's choice of camp sites and limits one's activities. Tenters and backpackers can go anywhere and do anything. I've never heard of anyone doing the Pacific Crest Trail or the Appalachian Trail towing an RV--with or without a bathroom.

As with almost every option available with Escape trailers it all boils down to the buyer's personal camping style and needs.
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It IS about the individual and how he or she camps. The interesting thing for me, is I know how I camped/traveled in the past, but have zero clue about my future. How many are travelers... going from point A to point B and spend the night in (for instance) a Walmart parking lot? Better have something in mind for a bathroom, if the store is not open 24 hours a day.

I know the Quartzite gathering is on my bucket list. Literally close to 200 all-molded towable trailers camping in the dirt out in the desert. Closest bathroom is 5 miles away. No vault toilets nearby either. It's conditions such as this, you need to at least plan for an alternative. Maybe a pop-up shower/port-a-potty tent would work? Although I don't think Walmart would like that...
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Am enjoying this conversation, particularly the thought that one must haul a bathroom around in order to expand one's horizons and not be restricted in the choice of camp sites or camping styles. But the mere task of hauling an RV restricts one's choice of camp sites and limits one's activities. Tenters and backpackers can go anywhere and do anything. I've never heard of anyone doing the Pacific Crest Trail or the Appalachian Trail towing an RV--with or without a bathroom.

As with almost every option available with Escape trailers it all boils down to the buyer's personal camping style and needs.
One doesn't have to haul a bathroom around. Though, our experience has found that having one does improve the comfort of our travels. Having tent camped in the back country for years, having a bathroom available is option that opens the door for convenience for the things we value as a couple. It's certainly not a necessity. You likely can't haul a trailer where you would tent camp in back country anyway. As you noted, it's all about personal preferences and travel style. There is no right or wrong way, only an adventure to be experienced.
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