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Old 12-28-2013, 04:02 PM   #21
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Maybe I'm being overcautious - but I'm looking at a Jetta Sportswagen TDI, which isn't even rated for towing (in the US). Figured Can-Am could do some work to make the tow safer.
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:10 PM   #22
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Why not look for a vehicle that is rated for towing? I too am skeptical of Can-Am's 'solutions' to allow using vehicles that are not intended for towing.
Put the money into the vehicle instead of the 'fix'.
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:15 PM   #23
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I've looked at the ratings for the Jetta in Europe - same car - and it has a tow rating for 1400 kilos. I think it's not rated in the US for legal reasons (CYA).

I'm still looking, and am open to suggestions, since I have plenty of time to decide, but that's where I'm leaning right now.

But up until last week, I was also leaning toward a Casita, so I can change my mind.
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Over on FGRV you can find interminable discussions about European tow ratings and how vehicles that appear the same in Europe and here are not the same.
You will also find hundreds of posts pro and con Can-Am and their 'solutions'.
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:38 PM   #25
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But up until last week, I was also leaning toward a Casita, so I can change my mind.
I too looked at Casitas but, as a rule, they are heavier than equivalent Escapes. There is a thread on real world weights of FG trailers.
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Old 12-28-2013, 04:53 PM   #26
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Thanks Tim and Julie. Weight was the big consideration, but aesthetically and practically, the modifications that were offered were what sold me on the Escape.
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Old 12-28-2013, 05:23 PM   #27
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I've looked at the ratings for the Jetta in Europe - same car - and it has a tow rating for 1400 kilos.
Yes... 1400 kg (3080 lb), probably with about 100 kg (220 lb) of hitch weight, at no more than 100 km/h (62 mph) using a hitch designed for the vehicle and tested to Euro government standards. Just buy a European caravan suited to very low hitch weight and equipped with shock absorbers and an anti-sway coupler, and your're set. Without the right equipment (but still with low enough hitch weight) you're good for only 80 km/h (50 mph). As mentioned earlier, this has been extensively discussed in other forums.

Nothing Can-Am might do will address the differences between that Euro caravan and an Escape; they don't even use VW's approved hitch mounting points.

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I think it's not rated in the US for legal reasons (CYA).
Volkswagen has no issue with U.S. regulations or being sued - they offer the Touareg with 3500 kg (7700 lb) towing capacity. I'm sure a Jetta can tow, but I'm not second-guessing VW, and Can-Am certainly isn't qualified to do so.

The lack of suitably rated tow vehicles with high fuel economy is frustrating, but I don't think a hitch installation company is the fix... just my opinion.
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:30 PM   #28
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I think I've found my tow. A Nissan Xterra 4x4 rated to tow 5000 lbs. with factory-installed towing package. And the price is right, too!
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Can I go with you……. sounds like a wonderful trip.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:48 PM   #30
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I am soooo looking forward to it! Probably more than a year off, looking at the production schedule for 15s. House doesn't go on the market until March, so no movement until then. Meanwhile, I'm doing research and dreamin'.
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