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Old 01-25-2015, 01:53 PM   #51
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Yes, we thought of creating an LLC in Montana and purchasing through that, which would avoid all sales taxes, and would only require an MCO to get it registered by mail. But, there's a bit more to it than that, and it doesn't fit our situation now that it's already financed and insured. You have to start that process as an LLC, not an individual. Had we financed and insured from the get go as an LLC, the Montana registration would make sense.
rbryan4, I reread the entire thread and I can't figure out what an LLC or MCO are. I am sure it will be obvious once you tell me. The reason why I am nosing into this is that our 2010 5.0 will be moving to Missouri and I am hoping the buyer doesn't encounter anything too bureaucratic. When I first started this process I spoke to Tammy and she told me that the buyer would need to present a completed form 7501 and the Bill of Sale to the US border agent for endorsement and then present the endorsed 7501 to his local DMV office for registration, payment of taxes and fees etc. She cautioned me, as normal private citizen, to not deliver the trailer into the US myself as the rules for me to deliver a trailer for the purpose of selling it could be quite different for me than for a commercial enterprise like ETI. I am curious about the Montana situation, as the buyer could very well travel through Montana on the way home to Missouri.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:07 PM   #52
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:21 PM   #53
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rbryan4, I reread the entire thread and I can't figure out what an LLC or MCO are. I am sure it will be obvious once you tell me. The reason why I am nosing into this is that our 2010 5.0 will be moving to Missouri and I am hoping the buyer doesn't encounter anything too bureaucratic. When I first started this process I spoke to Tammy and she told me that the buyer would need to present a completed form 7501 and the Bill of Sale to the US border agent for endorsement and then present the endorsed 7501 to his local DMV office for registration, payment of taxes and fees etc. She cautioned me, as normal private citizen, to not deliver the trailer into the US myself as the rules for me to deliver a trailer for the purpose of selling it could be quite different for me than for a commercial enterprise like ETI. I am curious about the Montana situation, as the buyer could very well travel through Montana on the way home to Missouri.
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Gerri, the way the Montana registration works is that you have to be a resident of Montana -- OR -- use a loophole in the law by having a firm create a Limited Liability Company (LLC - thanks Jim) in Montana for you. You are the owner of the LLC, and you purchase and insure the trailer in the name of the LLC -- not you as an individual. As the LLC owner, you designate who can use the vehicle because its now a company vehicle. This arrangement means that you pay no sales tax on the trailer and registration in Montana only requires an MCO (Manufacturer Certificate of Origin - thanks again Jim).

As for registering an imported vehicle in Missouri, there are no issues -- its simple. Here is a snip from the Missouri DMV FAQ:

What if I want to buy a vehicle from another country?
If you've got your eyes on that German sports car, you won't have too much trouble with the Missouri DMV. All you need is proof of ownership, which means a valid title signed over to you or a bill of sale. A combination typically works best for foreign imports.

The vehicle will have to pass federal regulations. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) provides a helpful FAQs page on importation and certification laws.

Once you've brought the vehicle to Missouri, follow regular registration and titling procedures.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:28 PM   #54
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Some states and counties do not look to kindly on this, legal or not. They call it tax evasion. A few years ago the county here went trolling through aircraft records looking for planes that were hangared in the local area but registered out of state. If I remember right, there were some big fines involved. The way Kansas is broke and starving for cash, for me it would not be worth the fight. Loren
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Some states and counties do not look to kindly on this, legal or not. They call it tax evasion. A few years ago the county here went trolling through aircraft records looking for planes that were hangared in the local area but registered out of state. If I remember right, there were some big fines involved. The way Kansas is broke and starving for cash, for me it would not be worth the fight. Loren
It's either legal or it isn't legal, whether the state looks kindly on it or not. I wouldn't go through the hassle for a number of reasons, but to be brutally honest I could care less what the tax man thinks - if it's legal.
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Thanks all. Glad to hear Missouri is fairly straight forward. rbryan4 I've made a copy of your findings re Missouri for my file to pass on to the new owner.

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Agree with Rob; it's illegal to evade taxes yet everyone's right to avoid them.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:06 PM   #58
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We live in Chambers County Texas, just East of Houston. I took all the paperwork that Tammy sent prior to our trip to Chilliwack, to our tax office. After a little discussion, they registered our Escape and we left with license plates in hand

Unfortunately a lot of times the easy answer is they can't, when it really means they don't know and don't want to find out for sure.....
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