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Old 06-27-2014, 09:39 AM   #1
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Need Conforming Certificate of Origin

ARGH!!!! I hate the MVA! Apparently the certificate of origin supplied by ETI is not on the correct paper for me to register the trailer. I need it on some special paper so that it "conforms" to some standard. Anyone else have this problem How do I fix it??
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:46 AM   #2
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Are you the only Escape owner in Maryland? If not, maybe you can contact ETI for assistance, as they may have dealt with this before. What did they mean by conforming? Did they tell you exactly what is needed? Good luck.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:47 AM   #3
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They showed me a form with fancy script at the top, said it had special security features in the paper and said I needed one.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:57 AM   #4
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How do vehicle dealers within, or manufactures outside the state get the paper? Maybe, if I am not being overly optimistic they can send their "special paper" to ETI to generate one. Good luck in finding someone that has the authority and capacity to do this.
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:01 AM   #5
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My suggestion is to go to a different DMV office. I don't know how things work in MA, but in OR, no two DMVs have the same level of knowledge. If I get a NO at one, I go to a different one and often get a YES.
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:05 AM   #6
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That is probably the best and easiest idea, and probably true in California as well.
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:22 AM   #7
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I had similar problem last year registering my 19' in Virginia. I went to a different DMV office and they processed it without question with the paperwork provided by ETI.
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:29 AM   #8
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FBG,

Here's MD MVA's webpage for titling and registering a new vehicle. It may help.
Maryland Vehicle Title and Registration Information

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Old 06-27-2014, 11:11 AM   #9
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Glen,
Thanks. I have been on that site several times and called MVA. Still not sure I have a fix. Did you have trouble with you registration?
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:25 AM   #10
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Kris,

Our egg doesn't hatch until the end of the month. So we'll need to go through this (so I've got a vested interest in seeing you through this
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According to the MD MVA website, you need to present four (4) documents to title/register a new vehicle. They are: (1) form VR-005, (2) a Certificate of Origin (produced by the manufacturer), (3) a bill of sale, and (4) an odometer disclosure statement.


The COO is probably what they expecting to see something fancy. A simple explanation that what you have is what the manufacturer provided should be, and often is, good enough. If not, a simple query as to the underlying basis for requiring a particular kind of COO may be sufficient to unfreeze things.


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Old 06-27-2014, 11:27 AM   #11
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P.S. The suggestion others have made to seek another MVA office can often pay dividends.

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Old 06-27-2014, 11:49 AM   #12
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DMV in CA is generally the pits, which is why I always use AAA for registering vehicles. Whole different culture.
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Massachusetts refused mine for the same reason, they did however fax what I had off to some sort of special research dept and okayed it the next day.
I called Tammy on it and she stated the one she had sent me was not the final document that would have a seal on it, that is what Dave (delivery) had with him to get it across the border. I do not recall getting it from Dave on delivery so maybe it goes back to ETI, give them a call.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:32 PM   #14
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I have spoken with Tammy several times today. She has been great, even calming me down when I started to cry. She is investigating the special paper requirements (there are 9 security requirements to conform too) and she will have my document notarized by a lawyer ($75). Hopefully this will resolve it. I am debating trying a different MVA, but don't really want to stand in line again for hours to be rejected again.
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I am sorry for your problems. It's no fun when you feel like you are butting your head against a brick wall. Perhaps you can get to the head of the line next time as the mishap was not of your making. Know that this will pass and you'll have fun and happy times.
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I have spoken with Tammy several times today. She has been great, even calming me down when I started to cry. She is investigating the special paper requirements (there are 9 security requirements to conform too) and she will have my document notarized by a lawyer ($75). Hopefully this will resolve it. I am debating trying a different MVA, but don't really want to stand in line again for hours to be rejected again.
Wednesdays and Thursdays are generally less busy. Also, local offices have wait times posted online so you can check to see who is busy and who's not. Also, driving to another county and being seen right away might be less time consuming than going to the closest MVA office and waiting to be seen.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:28 PM   #17
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DMV in CA is generally the pits, which is why I always use AAA for registering vehicles. Whole different culture.
THAT is a good suggestion. I have NEVER had an issue registering a vehicle at an AAA office.
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I was surprised to learn that the local AAA office is an official RMV office, I always thought they just took them to the RMV for you.
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DMV's are notoriously fickle. I was terrified when I had to take my documents to the VA DMV after Dave accidently spilled coffee all over the important docs making them unreadable. BUT, I persevered and was able to get the trailer registered. (We won't talk about the 1.5 hrs trying to figure the VA sales tax based off of Canadian dollar amounts).

Hang in there! I also think going to another DMV might be the answer.
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DMV in CA is generally the pits, which is why I always use AAA for registering vehicles. Whole different culture.
FBG,

AAA in MD does title and tag service for members and non-members. Not all offices do so, but the branch in Rockville does.

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