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Old 09-04-2017, 02:17 PM   #1
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I grew up using the old Coleman white gas stoves and found them to be remarkably durable and useful and am considering the purchase of a new one (essentially the same as what I used long ago but now able to also use unleaded gasoline). I have a super cheap no-name portable propane stove that I used when we had our truck camper but I never really liked it hence my search for a replacement.

Are there any benefits to the higher cost propane portable stoves vs the old fashioned Coleman stove? Although the Coleman stove would require having another fuel type (Coleman fuel or unleaded gasoline) I do not believe it would take up much more storage than a bunch of disposable propane cylinders or another 20lb propane tank. I will likely add the propane disconnect to our Build Sheet and know that as along as I wanted to use the stove closer to the trailer I could purchase a hose to work with a portable stove as another option. Finally, I really like the Spitfire grill discussed in other posts but believe I will still want a portable stove even though I may someday purchase something like the Spitfire grill. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and words of wisdom.
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I grew up using the old Coleman white gas stoves and found them to be remarkably durable and useful and am considering the purchase of a new one (essentially the same as what I used long ago but now able to also use unleaded gasoline). I have a super cheap no-name portable propane stove that I used when we had our truck camper but I never really liked it hence my search for a replacement.

Are there any benefits to the higher cost propane portable stoves vs the old fashioned Coleman stove? Although the Coleman stove would require having another fuel type (Coleman fuel or unleaded gasoline) I do not believe it would take up much more storage than a bunch of disposable propane cylinders or another 20lb propane tank. I will likely add the propane disconnect to our Build Sheet and know that as along as I wanted to use the stove closer to the trailer I could purchase a hose to work with a portable stove as another option. Finally, I really like the Spitfire grill discussed in other posts but believe I will still want a portable stove even though I may someday purchase something like the Spitfire grill. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and words of wisdom.
I replaced my Coleman white gas stove with a Coleman propane Grill/Stove (half grill & one burner). Rather than adding to the landfills with 1 lb disposable tanks, I purchased a 1 gallon (5 lb) refillable tank. Same fittings at the 20 pound tanks, but easier to store & dig out of the truck bed.

Not the best grill in the world, but the combination lets me cook most of my meals outside. It will not work with the low pressure tap provided by Escape - it has a built in regulator that runs a bit higher pressure than the 11" WP the trailer uses.
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I replaced my Coleman white gas stove with a Coleman propane Grill/Stove (half grill & one burner). Rather than adding to the landfills with 1 lb disposable tanks, I purchased a 1 gallon (5 lb) refillable tank. Same fittings at the 20 pound tanks, but easier to store & dig out of the truck bed.

Not the best grill in the world, but the combination lets me cook most of my meals outside. It will not work with the low pressure tap provided by Escape - it has a built in regulator that runs a bit higher pressure than the 11" WP the trailer uses.
Thanks. I had not thought about a smaller, refillable tank. That could be very convenient.
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Are there any benefits to the higher cost propane portable stoves vs the old fashioned Coleman stove?
Propane is typically easier to light, because the propane pressure to the burner is constant, unlike the liquid-fueled stoves which need to be pumped up to start and depend on the burner heating the fuel to keep running properly.
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Except it seems the smaller the tank, the more expensive it becomes. I can find 20gal all day long for $25, but a 5 gal or 10 gal will cost 3 times that amount??
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We had a Coleman white gas stove for years, even after propane ones took over the market. White gas became difficult to find. I ended up going to the petroleum products distributor about 15 mi. away to buy it, in a 5 gal. jerry can because that's their minimum.
The last straw was on the road during a camping trip, when a gasket cracked, and white gas vapors and liquid permeated most of our gear in our small utility trailer.
Result: threw the stove away, bought a propane one that we are now still using. We have a Tee at one propane tank on the trailer front, and a couple of 12 ft. hoses, to run to the stove on the campsite table. Works great.
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Except it seems the smaller the tank, the more expensive it becomes. I can find 20gal all day long for $25, but a 5 gal or 10 gal will cost 3 times that amount??
I did an internet search shortly after reading the earlier post and found that the smaller tanks cost 2 to 3 times more than the 20 gal tanks. It only makes sense to the manufacturers and marketeers. Since I have the space and already own extra 20lb tanks I think I will find a way to tote one along if I go the propane route for my portable stove. Maybe there will be a sale when their stock of 5 gal tanks fills the warehouse.
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We had a Coleman white gas stove for years, even after propane ones took over the market. White gas became difficult to find. I ended up going to the petroleum products distributor about 15 mi. away to buy it, in a 5 gal. jerry can because that's their minimum.
The last straw was on the road during a camping trip, when a gasket cracked, and white gas vapors and liquid permeated most of our gear in our small utility trailer.
Result: threw the stove away, bought a propane one that we are now still using. We have a Tee at one propane tank on the trailer front, and a couple of 12 ft. hoses, to run to the stove on the campsite table. Works great.

That just might be the ticket. I have a 12ft propane hose that I hook up to the house propane for our BBQ - same concept and simple. Thanks.
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When I decided to donate a lot of stuff including tents, a 17 ft canoe, and a ton of fishing stuff) to the Boy Scouts in 2007 the Scoutmaster who showed up with the whole troop advised me that they no longer allowed Scouts to handle liquid fuels. So my stove and lantern wound up at Goodwill instead.
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I did an internet search shortly after reading the earlier post and found that the smaller tanks cost 2 to 3 times more than the 20 gal tanks. It only makes sense to the manufacturers and marketeers. Since I have the space and already own extra 20lb tanks I think I will find a way to tote one along if I go the propane route for my portable stove. Maybe there will be a sale when their stock of 5 gal tanks fills the warehouse.
Yes, my 1 gallon tank cost $60.00. The price depends on volume (sales, not capacity!)
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A hint for transporting 20-gallon tanks. They fit perfectly inside a square 4-gallon plastic milk container like a dairy uses and available at Home Depot. This gives you more support from tipping, eliminates the round bottom ring from scratching things it is set on, handles to grasp and lots of holes for tie downs. You can also stick small tings in the corners vertically to keep them handy.
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This thing works great. I have two bottles and can fill off the trailer in a pinch.

https://www.rei.com/product/113711/f...efill-kit-1-lb
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I have used white gas stoves and lanterns a lot. I still use white gas for my backcountry stoves. But gave up on the camp stove years ago, and recently replaced my lantern with a much smaller, brighter and WAY quieter LED version.

I have used the small propane bottles and toting around a large bottle, but nothing beats the convenience of the Low Pressure Quick Connect. I regularly run three appliances off of it, a BBQ, stove and firepit. No more hassle of carrying and running out of those wasteful green bottles, and no having to find an out of the way place for an extra propane bottle (of any size). The hoses and splitter go in the bin with the electric cord and other camp gear.
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A hint for transporting 20-gallon tanks. They fit perfectly inside a square 4-gallon plastic milk container like a dairy uses and available at Home Depot. This gives you more support from tipping, eliminates the round bottom ring from scratching things it is set on, handles to grasp and lots of holes for tie downs. You can also stick small tings in the corners vertically to keep them handy.
Great idea. Thanks. I formerly used a heavy duty bus tub and cargo straps when just refilling tanks for home use. I now have a propane tap from the house for our outdoor grill which is why I have extra 20lb tanks. Your milk crate idea is perfect. Thanks again.
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This thing works great. I have two bottles and can fill off the trailer in a pinch.

https://www.rei.com/product/113711/f...efill-kit-1-lb

I have seen those but never used one. Another gadget for my want list. Thanks.
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I have used white gas stoves and lanterns a lot. I still use white gas for my backcountry stoves. But gave up on the camp stove years ago, and recently replaced my lantern with a much smaller, brighter and WAY quieter LED version.

I have used the small propane bottles and toting around a large bottle, but nothing beats the convenience of the Low Pressure Quick Connect. I regularly run three appliances off of it, a BBQ, stove and firepit. No more hassle of carrying and running out of those wasteful green bottles, and no having to find an out of the way place for an extra propane bottle (of any size). The hoses and splitter go in the bin with the electric cord and other camp gear.
Thanks for the input from experience. Our past camping has been very spartan - tents, small truck camper and boat camping so all the conveniences offered by the Escape can, and likely will, change how we camp. We do not have the propane connect on our Build Sheet yet but I am leaning toward adding it - I think it will offer convenience and another option even if I still want a stove that I can use well away from the trailer for some reason. The Escape is a move up for us (we find we like comfort a bit more now that we are older) and convenience is always an added benefit.
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Just wrapped up a weekend at Jasper National Park with the Escape. Since there was a ban on campfires in place, I used the propane quick connect for my fire-bowl and had a great evening sitting out in front of the fire. Meals were prepared outdoors on my Spitfire grill, which was hooked up directly to the quick connect on my Escape. I bring a Coleman 2-burner white gas stove along in the front storage box of the Escape, but did not get an opportunity to use it this weekend. When back-country camping, I bring a smaller single burner multi-fuel stove that is capable of burning white-gas, or alternatives such as gasoline, diesel, kerosene, or others.
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