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12-29-2016, 01:37 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 19 delivery Apr 2017
Posts: 27
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2-way hot water tank option
Can someone explain what the 2-way hot water tank upgrade option entails? What is in the standard build and what are the advantages of the upgrade?
We are working on our 19' build sheet. Any replies appreciated.
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12-29-2016, 01:47 PM
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#2
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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The standard water heater is propane only. The 2 way heater heats with propane or electricity or both at the same time. We have the 2 way on our current trailer and will again when we order our new trailer. I will admit in the 6 years of owning a FG trailer we have never run out water heater on propane.
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12-29-2016, 01:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Long Beach, Washington
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19 "Tortuga"
Posts: 200
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it's worth it. saves propane when you have an electric hook-up. gives you options.
steve
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12-29-2016, 01:57 PM
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#4
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,544
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The dual fuel refers to either wood or coal fired. While wood is more available everywhere you go, we find the coal to burn longer, requiring less feeding. I prefer the dual fuel water heater, even if it is that 120V/propane one Steve refers to.
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12-29-2016, 02:08 PM
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#5
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Marana, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
The dual fuel refers to either wood or coal fired. While wood is more available everywhere you go, we find the coal to burn longer, requiring less feeding. I prefer the dual fuel water heater, even if it is that 120V/propane one Steve refers to.
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I too like the coal option the best. Only drawback is where to store the shovel used to feed the water heater. Where do you store yours, Jim?
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12-29-2016, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,544
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
Where do you store yours, Jim?
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The same place I store the one to shovel the...er...."stuff" I put out there.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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12-29-2016, 02:17 PM
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#7
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
I too like the coal option the best. Only drawback is where to store the shovel used to feed the water heater. Where do you store yours, Jim?
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Hi: Zardoz... Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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12-29-2016, 02:36 PM
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#8
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,256
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Coal
Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: Zardoz... Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Living just 4 miles north of the Union Pacific main line that hauls millions of tons of coal annually out of Wyoming, east to where it is used to fire the giant steel mills in Ohio and Pennsylvania, i simply wait until the steam locomotives stop for water, put down my spray paint cans and climb the side of a coal car and fill a gunny sack full of coal ( about 225 lbs) and climb back down with the bag over my shoulder. That coal heats my Escape water for a whole weekend. It is CLEAN coal! I haul it home over the handlebars of my Schwinn bicycle,
4 miles up hill.
Dave
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12-29-2016, 02:52 PM
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#9
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,233
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
It is CLEAN coal! I haul it home over the handlebars of my Schwinn bicycle,
4 miles up hill.
Dave
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I thought you were using it with your Stanley Steamer?
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12-29-2016, 03:11 PM
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#10
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,256
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Burns too hot for the steamer and the Case Traction engine, I like Locust
for that. Used to use coal in the stoves at the ice Rinks in Fairmont Park in Council Bluffs,
Iowa though. Cherry Red IS a color of hot iron.
Dave
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12-29-2016, 03:39 PM
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#11
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Trailer: 2015 21ft Escape "Spirit of the Plains", 2014 GMC Sierra with max tow package
Posts: 1,100
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On a more serious note, when in a campground with full hookups, I use their electricity and save my propane. Loren
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12-29-2016, 03:42 PM
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#12
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Burns too hot for the steamer and the Case Traction engine, I like Locust
for that. Used to use coal in the stoves at the ice Rinks in Fairmont Park in Council Bluffs,
Iowa though. Cherry Red IS a color of hot iron.
Dave
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Hi: Iowa Dave... Funny you should refer to coal. I just picked up some Black Coal for our trip south... Railway City Brewing Co. 6 tall boy cans ought a do it!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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12-29-2016, 03:49 PM
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#13
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 19 delivery Apr 2017
Posts: 27
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thanks for the replies. it sounds like a good option.
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12-29-2016, 03:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
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Dead Elephant
Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: Iowa Dave... Funny you should refer to coal. I just picked up some Black Coal for our trip south... Railway City Brewing Co. 6 tall boy cans ought a do it!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Jack And Nancy from Sarnia were kind enough to provide me with a
Dead Elephant on a couple of occasions. Tasty for sure. When I describe a dark place I usually say darker than a black cat in a coal bin eating licorice.
Happy New Year
Dave
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12-29-2016, 04:02 PM
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#15
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Jack And Nancy from Sarnia were kind enough to provide me with a
Dead Elephant on a couple of occasions. Tasty for sure. When I describe a dark place I usually say darker than a black cat in a coal bin eating licorice.
Happy New Year
Dave
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As my buddy describes what he like most about my porter - he says it has that great ashtray flavor....
...and I think the dual fuel option is an excellent choice - regardless of what 2 sources you use!
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12-29-2016, 04:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape - upgraded version
Posts: 2,697
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12-29-2016, 05:35 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Arvada, Colorado
Trailer: 2015 E'21 - 'Velocity'. Tow: Toyota Tacoma V6, 4X4, manual.
Posts: 1,692
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loren & Cathy
On a more serious note, when in a campground with full hookups, I use their electricity and save my propane. Loren
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On the same note: When in a campground with full hookups I use both their electricity and my propane at the same time and take almost endless showers. (It takes a lot to get me clean.)
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Alan
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12-29-2016, 05:40 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alanmalk
On the same note: When in a campground with full hookups I use both their electricity and my propane at the same time and take almost endless showers. (It takes a lot to get me clean.)
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Alan
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Hi: alanmalk... I usually just get "Dry cleaned". We do have the dual fuel water heater though!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
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12-29-2016, 07:33 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Ross, Ohio
Trailer: 2013 EggCamper
Posts: 61
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So traveling down US56 today between Lawrenceburg and Madison Indiana - along the Ohio river, I noticed all the power plants billowing out the smoke from the coal. Then I got to wondering "in my house I have a vent-less LP fireplace" and I decided to invent a vent-less coal burning power plant!! Wish me luck!
But seriously - that 2-way water heater - that's one option I would not even think about doing without - just do it!! You can run fully on AC and not even open the LP tanks when your plugged in!
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12-29-2016, 08:11 PM
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#20
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Aha, but if you don't camp where there are power-bushes, then two-way is a waste of money, or will take forever to recoup the upfront cost.
I turn the propane heater on for twenty minutes to half an hour before needing hot water and then I turn it off. Stays hot enough to do dishes for most of the day.
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