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12-02-2015, 12:13 AM
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21' electrical photos
Here are some photos in our 21' under the back bench. If anyone wants to comment on exactly what is there, please do so.
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12-02-2015, 12:20 AM
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Cord in bag is ours.
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12-02-2015, 12:22 AM
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Samlex is inverter.
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12-02-2015, 12:26 AM
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Another view.
If anyone can ID particular wiring, go right ahead!
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12-02-2015, 12:35 AM
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EMS top right (Energy Management System --- surge protector) above cord in bag
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12-02-2015, 12:39 AM
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Batteries next to inverter
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12-02-2015, 12:42 AM
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Monitors in adjoining bench for solar and inverter, plus propane detector. (Solar since moved in other units)
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12-02-2015, 08:24 AM
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Man! That is one neat, squared away utilities cabinet. Good job!
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12-02-2015, 09:17 AM
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ETI installation ?
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12-02-2015, 09:34 AM
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Looks like it; moving the batteries to the rear bench a good move for ETI as it opens up that much more space under passenger side dinette. That rear space isn't easy to access.
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12-02-2015, 09:49 AM
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Does moving the batteries to a 'hard to access location' make the checking of battery fluid difficult?
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12-02-2015, 10:35 AM
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checking battery fluid
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Originally Posted by J Mac
Does moving the batteries to a 'hard to access location' make the checking of battery fluid difficult?
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I have 2 6v Interstates and checking the batteries is not a problem. One side of the battery holddown is removed by "feel" but it's easy. The rear flip-up hatch exposes 90% of the battery tops and access to all the cells is good without moving them. Moving all my wifes pillows are the problem.
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12-02-2015, 10:39 AM
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Quote:
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Does moving the batteries to a 'hard to access location' make the checking of battery fluid difficult?
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The thing is you check the battery fluid at intervals, which is much less(for us anyway) than going into the side dinette storage. For the rear both the back rest cushion- which is fabric over plywood and the bottom cushion, both of which are long must be removed. It is a little awkward to tilt at an angle for clearance needed to move it forward & out of the way. No big deal, but at least 3-4 times the effort as getting into the side dinette storage areas.
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12-02-2015, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
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Man! That is one neat, squared away utilities cabinet. Good job!
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It is neat and tidy although some nit-picking wag might point out that under residential wiring codes bundling that many AC wires together wouldn't be permitted. Good thing trailer wiring has different rules.
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12-02-2015, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
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Does moving the batteries to a 'hard to access location' make the checking of battery fluid difficult?
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I installed one of the single table pedestals that is not easily removable, no problem getting to the batteries to fill them but I'd not like to try it were I a hundred pounds heavier.
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12-02-2015, 03:48 PM
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We move the two big cushions and the pillows to the bed to get to the batteries. Probably more people want more space in the side benches because the benches can be accessed easier. Don't have to get to the batteries as often as some other things perhaps. People without the U dinette would have the batteries in a side bench which is where they used to be even with the U.
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12-02-2015, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
It is neat and tidy although some nit-picking wag might point out that under residential wiring codes bundling that many AC wires together wouldn't be permitted. Good thing trailer wiring has different rules.
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Aside from the number of AC cables, there is 120V AC cable bundled with 12V DC wires. That's generally not desirable, but at least it's tidy.
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12-02-2015, 08:10 PM
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Shore and Inverter power
The orange cables are for 120V AC, normally with 10-gauge conductors for 30-amp capacity. The silver box in the middle is connected to one cord from the inverter, and two orange cables, with no controls or display, so it must be the automatic changeover switch to supply the distribution panel from the inverter when the inverter is on and shore power is not available... one orange cable is incoming shore power, and the other takes the selected power source to the distribution panel.
The inverter connection is best seen in the second photo.
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12-02-2015, 08:15 PM
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AC branch circuits
The other flat cables are for 120V AC - white with 14-gauge conductors for 15-amp capacity and yellow with 12-gauge conductors for 20-amp capacity. They come out of the left side of the distribution panel, because that's the AC power side, to the various branch (load) circuits. The yellow cable is presumably for the air conditioner, because that normally calls for a 20-amp circuit.
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12-02-2015, 08:38 PM
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12V DC wiring
The single-conductor wires are for 12V DC. The ones to the inverter should be easy to trace (heavy gauge, and visible in this compartment), as should the ones from the solar panels to the controller and from the controller to the battery; the rest will generally run from the distribution panel to disappear toward unseen places in the trailer. I don't know what logic Escape is using to decide whether to use red or black wires, but they should both be positive while the white wires are the corresponding negative (or "ground") side of the DC circuits.
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