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Old 05-13-2016, 05:55 PM   #11
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Well it's been a few years since I wrote exams based on the Canadian Electrical Code and I'm certainly not an electrician but I was going by Rule 26-702(16)

"a circuit used solely for one or more outdoor outlets." Yes, the circuit can have another exterior outlet as long as the first one is a GFCI. The problem is that many houses that have been "updated" and flipped in our crazy market it's not uncommon for homeowner wiring to have all sorts of sometimes dangerous wiring. Bottom line: if you're going to plug in at a relatives house it'd be good to know if the circuit was a dedicated one not just one conveniently run to the exterior from an interior kitchen outlet.

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Ron....my current house was built in 2003 and none of the exterior outlets are on a dedicated circuit circuit, they are all tied together. All GFCI on a 20 amp breaker. Only dedicated circuits I have are water heater, heat pump, kitchen range, clothes dryer, etc. and a dedicated circuit I ran to the freezer in the garage because I failed to ask for it when specs fir the home were written. But you are dead on; with all the DIYers out there one could not know where power was picked up for an "add on" outlet. I have never seen nor heard of a house with more than one exterior outlet with each outlet on a dedicated circuit.
But I did install a dedicated 30 amp circuit for quiet, shaded "campsite" in my yard. To date, only one forum member has used it. But I do have space for two trailers if necessary.
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Old 05-13-2016, 06:13 PM   #12
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We will have the surge protector installed and between that and keeping the batteries shut off so the converter does not charge I hope we will be ok.
I'd think so but you might want to ask your friend/relative about the electrical to see if they think there's would be any issues. A newer house with a decent sized panel, probably no problem; an old house with a sub-standard panel, who knows what else might be sharing the circuit.

So, picking up in July, getting close, What route are you taking home?

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Old 05-13-2016, 06:18 PM   #13
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Ron....my current house was built in 2003 and none of the exterior outlets are on a dedicated circuit circuit, they are all tied together. All GFCI on a 20 amp breaker. Only dedicated circuits I have are water heater, heat pump, kitchen range, clothes dryer, etc. and a dedicated circuit I ran to the freezer in the garage because I failed to ask for it when specs fir the home were written. But you are dead on; with all the DIYers out there one could not know where power was picked up for an "add on" outlet. I have never seen nor heard of a house with more than one exterior outlet with each outlet on a dedicated circuit.
But I did install a dedicated 30 amp circuit for quiet, shaded "campsite" in my yard. To date, only one forum member has used it. But I do have space for two trailers if necessary.
Carl, I can't speak for your electrical code but ours requires any exterior outlet be on a dedicated circuit. There may be more than one exterior outlet on that circuit.

In addition to the circuits you noted probably your kitchen counter outlets are on dedicated circuits also.

Hmm, dedicated exterior power for a visiting RV, I'll remember that.

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Old 05-13-2016, 06:22 PM   #14
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My house is over 70 years old with 200 amp service, my garage has 30 amp sub panel with 2 15 amp circuits with one feeding the Escape via an outside outlet. Never had any issue using the a/c even with my 12 amp extension cord set up.
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I'd think so but you might want to ask your friend/relative about the electrical to see if they think there's would be any issues. A newer house with a decent sized panel, probably no problem; an old house with a sub-standard panel, who knows what else might be sharing the circuit.

So, picking up in July, getting close, What route are you taking home?

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I will be sure to check out the circuit i plug into and only use a heavy extension cord (maybe I should buy a 30 amp extension cord).
We are not taking the trailer back to Alaska. We are keeping it in my brothers barn in Montana when the month of traveling is up. We are taking the Cassiar highway down from Skagway on the way down. We have driven it several times.
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My house is over 70 years old with 200 amp service, my garage has 30 amp sub panel with 2 15 amp circuits with one feeding the Escape via an outside outlet. Never had any issue using the a/c even with my 12 amp extension cord set up.
Jim, you mean you haven't had any problem up to now. And you are pulling 15 amps through a cord rated for 12. Not only can that result in a reduction of watts delivered to the trailer, the cord could overheat and potentially be a fire hazard. Insurance companies look for stuff like this when claims are submitted. They have been known to deny claims when homeowner's can be considered negligent.
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Jim, you mean you haven't had any problem up to now. And you are pulling 15 amps through a cord rated for 12. Not only can that result in a reduction of watts delivered to the trailer, the cord could overheat and potentially be a fire hazard. Insurance companies look for stuff like this when claims are submitted. They have been known to deny claims when homeowner's can be considered negligent.
The trailer is outside as is the extension cord, no issue with EMS inside the trailer nor the 15amp GFCI circuit the extension is plugged. I would not operate the a/c off the extension other than outside.
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The trailer is outside as is the extension cord, no issue with EMS inside the trailer nor the 15amp GFCI circuit the extension is plugged. I would not operate the a/c off the extension other than outside.
Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of any potential ramifications. You seem to have it in hand!
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Old 05-13-2016, 08:09 PM   #19
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My house is over 70 years old with 200 amp service,
If it's original that would be beyond rare in these parts. Lot's of older houses, some with suites, still have 60 amps and fuses . I've also seen one with 30 amps.

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If it's original that would be beyond rare in these parts. Lot's of older houses, some with suites, still have 60 amps and fuses . I've also seen one with 30 amps.

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When I moved into my 87 year old house it had 60 amp service with with a 60 amp main and 4 15 amp subs. Blew several in the kitchen. New electric went in within 4 months. Remodeled and did new electric about 3 years later. Remodeled the kitchen and redid the electric panel again as I needed more fuses. Each time the electric was done by licensed electricians with permits and the 3 outside plugs are on one circuit each a GFI. That's what the code here allows.

Back to the original subject, I am astounded to learn that low amperage can harm the A/C and definitely will be on the lookout so as not to harm mine when I get it. Useful information Thanks.
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