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12-20-2015, 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Here is a picture of my awning "lock" lock.
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Jim is that another piece of velcro that you wrap around the latch?
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12-20-2015, 08:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Here is a picture of my awning "lock" lock.
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Nice, I'll be "stealing" this idea. Mine came loose from 90 mph winds in my driveway. No damage; but a bit unnerving to come home and see it flapping.
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12-20-2015, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
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Jim is that another piece of velcro that you wrap around the latch?
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Yes, I bought a "roll" of straps that have an opening which I slip over the lock and then attach to my awning strap. http://smile.amazon.com/VELCRO-ONE-W...CQ0H2DGKYKHVH0
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12-20-2015, 10:27 AM
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Cool - I already have a couple of those rolls - they are great for keeping various electrical cord tied up.
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12-20-2015, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Here is a picture of my awning "lock" lock.
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I always have used a Velcro strap on my awnings too . But is that a hook on the latch too ? Pat
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12-20-2015, 01:10 PM
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I am height imparied and could not reach that high to fasten. I do not carry a ladder or stool (probably unsafe) and use the Camco velcro awning fasteners. I just have to fasten then lower to the ground. They still keep the awning from opening but not as well as Jim's solution.
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12-20-2015, 01:43 PM
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I just bought a roll of Velcro, cut to length, and wrap the arm as high as I can reach. If the two parts of the arm can't separate, then it can't open.
I'm uncomfortable attaching anything to the locking lever itself for fear that instead of keeping it latched it might open it. There is a tension mechanism in the lever to keep it closed, or open.
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12-20-2015, 01:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fudge_brownie
I am height imparied and could not reach that high to fasten. I do not carry a ladder or stool (probably unsafe) and use the Camco velcro awning fasteners. I just have to fasten then lower to the ground. They still keep the awning from opening but not as well as Jim's solution.
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Like you we have trouble trying to get up high on the trailer . Found at Home Depot for about 13 . A lightweight aluminum 3 step folding ladder we keep under the bed storage . You can hang on at the top to be more secure , just going up to 2 nd step is pretty good if you need a picture I will take one . You will find it back where the ladders are and when you see it you will know . We have to use for many things even if we put up screen room . Pat
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12-20-2015, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
I just bought a roll of Velcro, cut to length, and wrap the arm as high as I can reach. If the two parts of the arm can't separate, then it can't open.
I'm uncomfortable attaching anything to the locking lever itself for fear that instead of keeping it latched it might open it. There is a tension mechanism in the lever to keep it closed, or open.
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Glen thinking about that latch securing you are probably right maybe opening it . Pat
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12-20-2015, 02:14 PM
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I also position the strap about 1' toward the centre of the awning so that the strap is wrapped into the awning roll. Used to have it rolled up on the edge and a couple times found the loose end had wrapped itself around the lever but with part flapping in the wind.
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12-20-2015, 02:59 PM
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With the awning secured, like Glen's photo, and if something hits the lock lever, perhaps the release strap or road debris, wind will open your awning while still attached in Glen's photo.
This happened to me in Montana on the way home from Osoyoos. Notice my straps at the top.
The velcro has a slit in it to make it into a "tie" if needed, I slip the lever into the slit.
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12-20-2015, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
With the awning secured, like Glen's photo, and if something hits the lock lever, perhaps the release strap or road debris, wind will open your awning while still attached in Glen's photo.
This happened to me in Montana on the way home from Osoyoos. Notice my straps at the top.
The velcro has a slit in it to make it into a "tie" if needed, I slip the lever into the slit.
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Hi: cpaharley2008... Montana... Isn't that the State of no speed limit? Alf
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12-20-2015, 03:55 PM
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Hi Alf, Montana went back to a speed limit after a couple of years of no limit a few years back. Seems the touri couldn't handle the caveat of reasonable and proper. That said, I was running 85 with no trailer a few years ago on the Beaverhead and was passed by a trooper who tipped his hat as he blew by. I saw him in a rest stop a few minutes later and asked him about speed. He said," You looked alert, had your seatbelt on and had a new vehicle so 85 seemed reasonable to me."' I have turned the ton a few times in Montana years ago when there was no limit. Now I'm an old guy and 65 on the gravel seemed fast the other day. I do love Montana
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05-02-2016, 01:05 PM
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This thread and other stories on the internet made me uncomfortable with the awning. The straps help the arms but the awning can still release. So, we bought the Pioneer Upgrade Kit. Should have it in by Wednesday. I'll report on the install.
http://www.amazon.com/Carefree-85000.../dp/B005GY8AVQ
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05-02-2016, 01:14 PM
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I suspect that those awning stories are almost 100 per cent 'user error'.
If you tighten the black knobs and close the latches on the awning arms, and keep the strap for opening the awning away from the release switch ( it will flap around when driving and could open the release if it's close enough ), you are unlikely to have a problem.
And, just to be even more sure, add a simple strap ( made from Velcro ) around the top of the awning arms.
Have to ask how this 'upgrade' makes the awning more secure?
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05-02-2016, 01:22 PM
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Glenn solution is exactly what I use. One Wrap around the bracket and around the awning leg. That sucker isn't going to open unless I let it!
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05-02-2016, 01:30 PM
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The stories I read were of the pot-metal pawl failing. So even if the lock lever is in the locked position the drum can still rotate.
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05-02-2016, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Glenn solution is exactly what I use. One Wrap around the bracket and around the awning leg. That sucker isn't going to open unless I let it!
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That will keep the arm in the upright position. Do you do anything else to keep the drum and awning from unfurling?
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05-02-2016, 01:52 PM
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Mine was locked top middle and bottom, but if the lock unlocks or fails, the awning will unfurl at highway speeds. Another reason to get the enclosed box awning.
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05-02-2016, 01:54 PM
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2nd Carefree Awning I've had and never had the issue described. We walk the strap at an angle towards the rear when storing and the strap actually goes up into the roll. When you open, just have to reach up and start the unroll and the strap falls right out.
I use short ball end bungees on the arms, but that won't prevent an unfurl if that were to happen. Something physically would have to hit the switch to open for an unfurl to occur, but would be very rare.
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