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Old 12-02-2016, 04:57 PM   #21
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But the air conditioner is 120V AC power only (and cannot reasonably be run from the inverter),
Yep, which is why I mentioned it separately.

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the electric water heater element (is so equipped) is 120V AC power only (with propane as an alternative),
Didn't count that, since it's optional.

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the microwave (if so equipped) is 120V AC only so can only run on 12V DC power by using the inverter
Again, not mentioned, because it's an AC appliance, and it's optional. Same rules are for any other AC appliance.

Again, there are exceptions, but rather than identify each one, was trying to help them understand how the basic power systems worked. I think once they understand the basics, it's easy from that point to understand the more complex.
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1. Escape comes with 30 amp and the 50 amp adapter and is separate aftermarket purchase. 30 amp will be enough and 50 amp only needed when that is all is available in the campground, which you will typically pay higher site price.
A tidbit of information from the KOA website - RV Electrical 101 - RV Information (RV Maintenance)

"For 50-amp service, however, the potential amount of power used – 12,000 watts, or 50 amps times 240 volts – represents more than three times as much possible demand as 30-amp service."

The reason a 50 Amp to 30 Amp adaptor is a "splitter" is because 50 Amp service is 240 Volts, just like a standard house system in the US.

But don't worry about this in real life. Your adaptor takes care of the voltage difference. This is just FYI info that explains why you are charged more for the 50 Amp campsite.

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Sisababe, you only use the inverter once in a while by turning it on. No, you cannot run the A/C but you can run a microwave for not long, or other high-draw items.
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Sisababe, you only use the inverter once in a while by turning it on. No, you cannot run the A/C but you can run a microwave for not long, or other high-draw items.
Thank you Cathy. I knew that the A/C could not be run and thought the microwave could not be used either. Good to know I can at least heat up water for tea in the microwave using the inverter if needed.
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Hot water for tea or coffee comes from a kettle on the propane stove.
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Hot water for tea or coffee comes from a kettle on the propane stove.
Also a good option!
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Hot water for tea or coffee comes from a kettle on the propane stove.
There is "camping" and there is "CAMPING".
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There is "camping" and there is "CAMPING".
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Or, take it all the way: hot water from the pot on the campfire. Did that plenty of times in our tent days.
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Or, take it all the way: hot water from the pot on the campfire. Did that plenty of times in our tent days.
Water and food....
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1. Given that, is there a significant advantage to using 12v appliances rather than standard 120v appliances ?
2. If so, what 12v appliances do you use? I’m trying to decide how many plugs I need of each 12v and 120v. I don’t currently have any 12v gadgets and am having a hard time envisioning what I might need or could replace with a 12v to save power.
All your first questions are answered quite well above, but I will address the last two.

The standard equipment built into the trailer only operates on 12V or propane. This will get you out camping and having a great time. 120V equipment is not needed.

However, lots of folks like 120V stuff too. Optional build items include the addition of dual source water heater, microwave and air conditioning. For anyone the first two might be nice to have, but not necessary to having a great camping trip. For those in the deep south, A/C is a much more welcome option.

We really don't ever bring much that requires 120V, and if we do we only use it when hooked to the grid, thus have no need for a built-in converter.

We do carry a small 200W plug-in inverter to operate our TV and my laptop. These too could be operated at 12V with the right TV and the right laptop charger.

We are not adding any 120V outlets, but are getting a total of 3 DC/USB outlets. One at the door, one at the dinette, and one near the head of our bed.
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